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Old 07-23-2014, 04:58 PM   #1
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Re: Set it all aside -- Training Camp Begins

O should be OK. Gruden's O in Cin went from 18th to 6th from 2011 - 2013. RG3 will be on point, WRs are solid, OL and pass-pro from RB/TEs will be improved

Specials will improve, probably middle of the pack...not the disaster of last year.

D.....there's our challenge. Bowen and Hatcher on PUP, questions at ILB and in the secondary. And Haslett has not had a D ranked higher that 21st in the NFL since prior to 2004.

Based on our schedule, here's what I see now:

Likely Wins: Jax, NYG, Tenn, DAL at Home, Minn - Away
Likely Ls: Phi, AZ, DAL, SF, Ind, NYG - Away, SEA - Home
Toss-ups: TB, STL, Phi - Home, HOU - Away

Going with a split on the toss-ups, we're probably looking at 7-9. Rebuilding (again) sucks.
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Old 07-23-2014, 05:17 PM   #2
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O should be OK. Gruden's O in Cin went from 18th to 6th from 2011 - 2013. RG3 will be on point, WRs are solid, OL and pass-pro from RB/TEs will be improved

Specials will improve, probably middle of the pack...not the disaster of last year.

D.....there's our challenge. Bowen and Hatcher on PUP, questions at ILB and in the secondary. And Haslett has not had a D ranked higher that 21st in the NFL since prior to 2004.

Based on our schedule, here's what I see now:

Likely Wins: Jax, NYG, Tenn, DAL at Home, Minn - Away
Likely Ls: Phi, AZ, DAL, SF, Ind, NYG - Away, SEA - Home
Toss-ups: TB, STL, Phi - Home, HOU - Away

Going with a split on the toss-ups, we're probably looking at 7-9. Rebuilding (again) sucks.
I hate your thinking on that. I feel like we had some good pick ups in the off season. BUT...... Shit your right rebuilding as always.
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Old 07-23-2014, 05:22 PM   #3
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Mo Hurt on the PUP list. Based on what the WaPo says, it would seem he may be a long shot for the roster: "Hurt, according to Gruden, showed up to camp out of shape and must work to improve his physical state before receiving clearance to practice. Hurt – a seventh-round pick in 2011 – opened last training camp on the PUP list after spending the summer recovering from arthroscopic knee surgery. The team put him on the regular season PUP list to start the year, and he wound up being moved to injured reserve late in the year after failing to provide a satisfactory body of work during the three-week practice evaluation period. Hurt spent the offseason program as a fourth-string right tackle, but entered the league at guard. He has starter Tyler Polumbus, rookie Morgan Moses and second-year pro Tom Compton ahead of him on the depth chart."

7th rounder so neither surprising or much of a loss (which is saying something given our O-line woes). I have to say, I cannot understand guys showing up out of shape. If your job is that of professional athlete, seriously? For a guy like this, it is tempting to just cut him right away and send a message.
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I just hope we stay healthy. I'm not going to get too high or low on anything that happens before week one. Last year we DOMINATED preseason. I don't just mean we won games, but we crushed teams w/o RG3 and I was all smiles going into the season and we're 3-13. I'm hoping to see some young guys (Moses, Thomas) possibly beat out some veterans, but we'll see. The fun can finally begin!
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I just hope we stay healthy. I'm not going to get too high or low on anything that happens before week one. Last year we DOMINATED preseason. I don't just mean we won games, but we crushed teams w/o RG3 and I was all smiles going into the season and we're 3-13. I'm hoping to see some young guys (Moses, Thomas) possibly beat out some veterans, but we'll see. The fun can finally begin!
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I just hope we stay healthy. I'm not going to get too high or low on anything that happens before week one. Last year we DOMINATED preseason. I don't just mean we won games, but we crushed teams w/o RG3 and I was all smiles going into the season and we're 3-13. I'm hoping to see some young guys (Moses, Thomas) possibly beat out some veterans, but we'll see. The fun can finally begin!
Not that we needed proof but this shows that pre season means nothing. You just can't put any stock into the games. The 91 Skins were garbage in pre season.
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Mo hurt on pup list because he reported to camp out of shape? Crazy
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:27 PM   #8
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Amerson taking a big step forward will make a huge difference for this team.

Rambo.... i'd like to see him make it through 4 preseason games tackling with his head up and not getting 15 yard penalties. That would be a big step up...

Need Bowen and Hatcher off pup...
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Amerson taking a big step forward will make a huge difference for this team.

Rambo.... i'd like to see him make it through 4 preseason games tackling with his head up and not getting 15 yard penalties. That would be a big step up...

Need Bowen and Hatcher off pup...
At this point yeah the secondary help would be great, but the front seven is where this defense has to win.
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Amerson taking a big step forward will make a huge difference for this team.

Rambo.... i'd like to see him make it through 4 preseason games tackling with his head up and not getting 15 yard penalties. That would be a big step up...

Need Bowen and Hatcher off pup...
Yeah I agree on Amerson. He has the ability to be our Richard Sherman. Rambo? I don't think he makes the team.
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At this point yeah the secondary help would be great, but the front seven is where this defense has to win.
Agreed... i don't have any faith in this front 7 to be any different than they have been. I think a healthy Griffin playing well and leading an offense that can drop 30+ a game is going to be the biggest boost to our defense...

I have no put no stock into the hype that this team has put up around this front 7. The guy we acquired that was supposed to be a boost and Bowen, another guy that was supposed to be a big boost but hasn't done much, are not even practicing.... Orakpo's break out year? We'll see... Haslett unhand-cuffed? I remain skeptical.

But hey, I've been wrong before

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Yeah I agree on Amerson. He has the ability to be our Richard Sherman. Rambo? I don't think he makes the team.
Yeah I gave up on Rambo last year in preseason. He's got talent but he's stupid. You can't fix stupid... though it appears the team is going to give it one more try.

Goo Fudge...
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Old 07-23-2014, 10:01 PM   #12
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Defense. Defense. Defense. Special Teams.

I believe the offense will do well for the most part, but everything still rides on defense and special teams at this point.

My "project" to watch this summer will be Brandon Jenkins. Guy has a ton of talent so let's see if he can put it all together and move up the depth chart.
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Defense. Defense. Defense. Special Teams.

I believe the offense will do well for the most part, but everything still rides on defense and special teams at this point.

My "project" to watch this summer will be Brandon Jenkins. Guy has a ton of talent so let's see if he can put it all together and move up the depth chart.

I disagree, Jenkins is 3rd string at best, and I doubt he makes the team. He is to slow for OLB (5.0 40), and to small for DE.
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I want Jim Useless to totally prove me wrong, and for BA' s choice for HC to be money!
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I disagree, Jenkins is 3rd string at best, and I doubt he makes the team. He is to slow for OLB (5.0 40), and to small for DE.
He's had one year. Had it not been for his injury, he would have been drafted much higher.
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