Set it all aside -- Training Camp Begins

[Slingin Sammy 33]

O should be OK. Gruden's O in Cin went from 18th to 6th from 2011 - 2013. RG3 will be on point, WRs are solid, OL and pass-pro from RB/TEs will be improved

Specials will improve, probably middle of the pack...not the disaster of last year.

D.....there's our challenge. Bowen and Hatcher on PUP, questions at ILB and in the secondary. And Haslett has not had a D ranked higher that 21st in the NFL since prior to 2004.

Based on our schedule, here's what I see now:

Likely Wins: Jax, NYG, Tenn, DAL at Home, Minn - Away
Likely Ls: Phi, AZ, DAL, SF, Ind, NYG - Away, SEA - Home
Toss-ups: TB, STL, Phi - Home, HOU - Away

Going with a split on the toss-ups, we're probably looking at 7-9. Rebuilding (again) sucks.

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

O should be OK. Gruden's O in Cin went from 18th to 6th from 2011 - 2013. RG3 will be on point, WRs are solid, OL and pass-pro from RB/TEs will be improved

Specials will improve, probably middle of the pack...not the disaster of last year.

D.....there's our challenge. Bowen and Hatcher on PUP, questions at ILB and in the secondary. And Haslett has not had a D ranked higher that 21st in the NFL since prior to 2004.

Based on our schedule, here's what I see now:

Likely Wins: Jax, NYG, Tenn, DAL at Home, Minn - Away
Likely Ls: Phi, AZ, DAL, SF, Ind, NYG - Away, SEA - Home
Toss-ups: TB, STL, Phi - Home, HOU - Away

Going with a split on the toss-ups, we're probably looking at 7-9. Rebuilding (again) sucks.

I hate your thinking on that. I feel like we had some good pick ups in the off season. BUT...... Shit your right rebuilding as always.

[calia]

Mo Hurt on the PUP list. Based on what the WaPo says, it would seem he may be a long shot for the roster: "Hurt, according to Gruden, showed up to camp out of shape and must work to improve his physical state before receiving clearance to practice. Hurt – a seventh-round pick in 2011 – opened last training camp on the PUP list after spending the summer recovering from arthroscopic knee surgery. The team put him on the regular season PUP list to start the year, and he wound up being moved to injured reserve late in the year after failing to provide a satisfactory body of work during the three-week practice evaluation period. Hurt spent the offseason program as a fourth-string right tackle, but entered the league at guard. He has starter Tyler Polumbus, rookie Morgan Moses and second-year pro Tom Compton ahead of him on the depth chart."

7th rounder so neither surprising or much of a loss (which is saying something given our O-line woes). I have to say, I cannot understand guys showing up out of shape. If your job is that of professional athlete, seriously? For a guy like this, it is tempting to just cut him right away and send a message.