Set it all aside -- Training Camp Begins

[MTK]

Leadership is nice but whether Clark can still play at a high level is what really matters.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Leadership is nice but whether Clark can still play at a high level is what really matters.

Not meaning to sound like Jeff George but this whole "leadership" thing is getting so tiresome. We need guys like Thomas and Robinson, 2nd and 3rd year guys need to be playing. They don't need guys in their mid 30's telling how to go to the bathroom. These are grown ass men. It's nice to have some old guys around that contribute but we're not winning with Moss and Clark. Or another year from Fletcher. It's the young guys like Amerson, Robinson, Thomas and so on that need to take that next step. Are their any old guys in Seattle's secondary? Clark was on the street for a reason and I didn't see a lot of teams fighting for his services.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not meaning to sound like Jeff George but this whole "leadership" thing is getting so tiresome. We need guys like Thomas and Robinson, 2nd and 3rd year guys need to be playing. They don't need guys in their mid 30's telling how to go to the bathroom.These are grown ass men. It's nice to have some old guys around that contribute but we're not winning with Moss and Clark. Or another year from Fletcher. It's the young guys like Amerson, Robinson, Thomas and so on that need to take that next step. Are their any old guys in Seattle's secondary? Clark was on the street for a reason and I didn't see a lot of teams fighting for his services.

No, yeah, I think they can use the bathroom just fine by themselves. Will that linebacker pick up the coverage on that back, though? Will that safety adjust to what that receiver just did? Does the 2nd year corner see what any veteran would see looking into the backfield? We don't need a bunch of 30 year-olds out there, but the young guys do need leaders. You point to Seattle's relatively young defense, but Richard Sherman and the rest of those guys communicate constantly, unlike our defense. Clark will be an absolute asset this year. Better than any safety we have, an excellent communicator on defense, and an excellent mentor for the young guys.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

No, yeah, I think they can use the bathroom just fine by themselves. Will that linebacker pick up the coverage on that back, though? Will that safety adjust to what that receiver just did? Does the 2nd year corner see what any veteran would see looking into the backfield? We don't need a bunch of 30 year-olds out there, but the young guys do need leaders. You point to Seattle's relatively young defense, but Richard Sherman and the rest of those guys communicate constantly, unlike our defense. Clark will be an absolute asset this year. Better than any safety we have, an excellent communicator on defense, and an excellent mentor for the young guys.

Well that statement means they don't need their hand held. Robinson is in his 3rd year. He knows the defense. If he doesn't know it by now then he shouldn't be on the team. Yeah he may not have the knowledge of Fletcher but he can learn it and he's a far better athlete. It's ok to have your players learning and playing together.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Leadership is nice but whether Clark can still play at a high level is what really matters.

I agree

apparently D Hall is playing some FS, however I doubt they are strong enough at CB to move Hall.................. it sounds like Rambo isn't the answer either

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

I agree

apparently D Hall is playing some FS, however I doubt they are strong enough at CB to move Hall.................. it sounds like Rambo isn't the answer either

I like this move a lot. We need a ballhawk back there. Maybe Breeland can step in there at corner.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I like this move a lot. We need a ballhawk back there. Maybe Breeland can step in there at corner.

N-o-o-o-o-o! Not another rookie corner. I think that DHall could do a good job at FS but if we move him to safety, I think we'll need to trade for a veteran CB. If I were the Redskins GM, I'd even overpay, if necessary, to get another solid vet at CB.

FS - DHall
SS - Phillip Thomas
CB - Solid Vet via Trade
CB - David Amerson

I think I'd feel pretty good about that group.

[whistler]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

N-o-o-o-o-o! Not another rookie corner. I think that DHall could do a good job at FS but if we move him to safety, I think we'll need to trade for a veteran CB. If I were the Redskins GM, I'd even overpay, if necessary, to get another solid vet at CB.

FS - DHall
SS - Phillip Thomas
CB - Solid Vet via Trade
CB - David Amerson

I think I'd feel pretty good about that group.

Fan, how does one become a solid vet? If you were the GM, you'd never trust the draft picks that you selected or the vets that you brought in? No way you find a diamond in the rough unless you let them play. Stop with all of the trade for vets BS. Trust the vets that you traded for and the players on the roster!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by whistler

Fan, how does one become a solid vet? If you were the GM, you'd never trust the draft picks that you selected or the vets that you brought in? No way you find a diamond in the rough unless you let them play. Stop with all of the trade for vets BS. Trust the vets that you traded for and the players on the roster!

Exactly. But I doubt we see much of Hall at FS.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Super excited that my friend and I are getting into the VIP section on the 11th. I'm tempted to try and ask Clark and Moss to sign my Sean Taylor shirt.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

N-o-o-o-o-o! Not another rookie corner. I think that DHall could do a good job at FS but if we move him to safety, I think we'll need to trade for a veteran CB. If I were the Redskins GM, I'd even overpay, if necessary, to get another solid vet at CB.

FS - DHall
SS - Phillip Thomas
CB - Solid Vet via Trade
CB - David Amerson

I think I'd feel pretty good about that group.

I'm with you. When you're facing Marshall/Jeffery or some receiving combo like that, you want DHall or an unobtained proven vet at CB for sure, along with Amerson. Tracy Porter is nice as a nickel back but is not who you want all game on someone like Dez Bryant.