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[MTK]

Winning takes care of everything and it's ultimately what everyone is judged on. Griffin can be a good to very good QB and win plenty of games. I don't think he needs to be "elite". He just needs to win.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Winning takes care of everything and it's ultimately what everyone is judged on. Griffin can be a good to very good QB and win plenty of games. I don't think he needs to be "elite". He just needs to win.

Correct, but after what we gave up for that trade the generally consistence is RGIII better turn out to be elite. In order for us to have a playoff run this year RGIII got be pretty close to elite. This isn't Seattle where Wilson is being asked to be good and the better parts of that team care the load. In WAS a lot if not at all hinges on RGII's "eliteness" for this years team's ability to capture wins.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Correct, but after what we gave up for that trade the generally consistence is RGIII better turn out to be elite. In order for us to have a playoff run this year RGIII got be pretty close to elite. This isn't Seattle where Wilson is being asked to be good and the better parts of that team care the load. In WAS a lot if not at all hinges on RGII's "eliteness" for this years team's ability to capture wins.

IMO the team could improve just enough around RGIII that he might not need to carry the entire team. Secondary, Offensive line and covering kicks is not an insurmountable list of areas that need improvement.
Plugging the holes that made the ship sink last year in combination with RGIII improvement (RGIII not having to be elite) could be enough to get us in the playoffs. Our divisional opponents are not elite.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

IMO the team could improve just enough around RGIII that he might not need to carry the entire team. Secondary, Offensive line and covering kicks is not an insurmountable list of areas that need improvement.
Plugging the holes that made the ship sink last year in combination with RGIII improvement (RGIII not having to be elite) could be enough to get us in the playoffs. Our divisional opponents are not elite.

True I agree with that as well. I guess I was more saying if the other parts didn't improve then we need a lot out of RGIII.

[Lotus]

We picked RGIII #2 overall in the draft. While he is young and and in a new system right now, he had better become elite sooner or later. You don't want to spend the #2 pick on a non-elite player.

But I agree with those who say what he needs to do more than anything this year is just win.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Lotus

We picked RGIII #2 overall in the draft. While he is young and and in a new system right now, he had better become elite sooner or later. You don't want to spend the #2 pick on a non-elite player.

But I agree with those who say what he needs to do more than anything this year is just win.

It was the #2 pick, but there have been enough busts at high qb picks that I am willing to spend the #2 (+the rest) to have stability and good to great play at the qb and go forward building a team around that. Other than G1 no one thinks Eli is elite, but he has two SB rings because he played good to great at the right time. I think Griffin is and will always be, better than Eli, so now it's a matter of:
a) consistency
b) learning he doesn't have to expose his body for extra yards (probably the hardest thing)
c) building the rest of the team.

All of that is doable, and (a) is definitely coachable. My biggest worry with Griffin will be his instinct to get that last yard, even when that last yard might cost him his body.