New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .

[saden1]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm sorry. Exactly where in that link does it show NJ makes money from the stadium? Have you got a breakdown between the costs of maintenance vs the income they receive?

If you are pointing to the concerts as the revenue, I have to remind you that it's the artists/performer who nets most of that money, not the venue.

I'm almost 100% sure that NJ lost money during the Super Bowl.


In Stadium Building Spree, U.S. Taxpayers Lose $4 Billion - Bloomberg

As per norm, Giantone doesn't know what he's talking about. Most cities lose out with new stadiums. The studies have been done.


I can post many articles and reports saying the same thing. It's all contradictory to what the NFL promises.

http://web.williams.edu/Economics/wp...nSuperbowl.pdf

It's pretty hard to argue with his tight logic.

In our world if you have 500 dollars to spend and you spend it all on tailgating you aren't going to spend it at the local restaurant. In Giantone's world people don't have finite discretionary income and you don't have to make an either/or decisions.

In our world when the billionaire baseball owner threatens to leave town unless the public finance his new stadium the billionaire football owner is likely to ask for the same deal. In Giantone's world baseball and football have nothing to do with each other.

In our world the stadiums mostly generate seasonally low wage jobs and the tax payer never recoups the money they put in to building it. In Giantone's world everyone makes money and that's that.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by saden1

It's pretty hard to argue with his tight logic.

In our world if you have 500 dollars to spend and you spend it all on tailgating you aren't going to spend it at the local restaurant. In Giantone's world people don't have finite discretionary income and you don't have to make an either/or decisions.

In our world when the billionaire baseball owner threatens to leave town unless the public finance his new stadium the billionaire football owner is likely to ask for the same deal. In Giantone's world baseball and football have nothing to do with each other. .

Can you read at all ????

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Can you read at all ????

I read you signature and I found your posts wanting.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by saden1

In our world when the billionaire baseball owner threatens to leave town unless the public finance his new stadium the billionaire football owner is likely to ask for the same deal. In Giantone's world baseball and football have nothing to do with each other.
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In the two stadiums being discussed they don't ,Fed Ex and Met Life in NJ . Now prove me wrong .

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Giantone

In the two stadiums being discussed they don't ,Fed Ex and Met Life in NJ . Now prove me wrong .

Don't try that narrowing of the subject shit with me. We are talking about the precedence set when you pay for the football or baseball stadium. Also, you seem to not understand the fact that the Gaints and Jets tried to get the public to build them a stadium but failed. See West Side Stadium Story. Unlike most sports teams they, of course, can't threaten to leave the biggest market in the nation though the NFL did manage to slightly punish the good people of NY....

In reaction to the state representatives' decision to reject the stadium's funding, the NFL decided on August 11 to reopen the bidding for the game site of Super Bowl XLIV. The eventual winner was Sun Life Stadium.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by saden1

Don't try that narrowing of the subject shit with me. We are talking about the precedence set when you pay for the football or baseball stadium. Also, you seem to not understand the fact that the Gaints and Jets tried to get the public to build them a stadium but failed. See West Side Stadium Story. Unlike most sports teams they, of course, can't threaten to leave the biggest market in the nation though the NFL did manage to slightly punish the good people of NY....

LOL , you can't read can you ? The Giants were , never , ever involved with that .So ....as you say don't try that shit with me .

[tshile]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL , you can't read can you ? The Giants were , never , ever involved with that .So ....as you say don't try that shit with me .

The sad fact is there is fleecing going on.

But those guys don't want to meet half way and recognize that there are cases where there is a benefit.

Like when your one of the biggest media markets in the country and you have no trouble selling out your stadium.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL , you can't read can you ? The Giants were , never , ever involved with that .So ....as you say don't try that shit with me .

Try not to feel stupid....

NFL Giants will split $750M home if West Side stadium fails - ESPN

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by saden1

Try not to feel stupid....

NFL Giants will split $750M home if West Side stadium fails - ESPN

Why would he feel stupid about that? It clearly says the Jets wanted the stadium and that the Giants would do a joint stadium with the Jets if the stadium the Jets wanted fell through. No where does it say the Giants were ever involved in the West Side Stadium.

Originally Posted by donofriose

I am waiting for someone to say FIFA helped out Brazil... Eerily similar in my personal opinion.

I dont see how thats anything alike. Brazil built something like 10 or 12 stadiums to be used for 3 or 4 weeks, then have nothing readily available to use it every year. Thats quite the difference than building 1 stadium that will be used every year.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by saden1

Try not to feel stupid....

NFL Giants will split $750M home if West Side stadium fails - ESPN

Again , did you read the link ?If the stadium deal for the Jets does not happen they would split the cost of the 1.5 billion stadium in the Meadow lands with the Giants . =750,000 million ,next !

[saden1]

"Our preference all along has been to play in a building with the Jets''

Translates to.

The probability of the Giants building a 1.4 billion dollar stadium by themselves is nil. Ideally both teams would prefer taxpayers pay for two stadium. The problem is though the Giants and Jets can't go to tax payers together or separately and ask for money. No one in their right mind would give tax payer money to two football teams with a combined annual income of 500+ million dollars or build each their own stadium. If the Jets alone went to tax payers and got them to build a stadium the Giants would almost certainly work out a deal to be a tenant in this new stadium.