Around the League: WEEK 1 Baby!

[irish]

Originally Posted by donofriose

The skins are not in the class of the Packers. Certain teams like the Packers always make the playoffs. The skins haven't been that for a loooong time. I think they might be improving, but we will see.

True, unfortunately the Skins are closer to the likes of Cleveland, Oakland and Buffalo than perennial playoff contenders like GB, Seattle, and NE. Sad but true.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by irish

True, unfortunately the Skins are closer to the likes of Cleveland, Oakland and Buffalo than perennial playoff contenders like GB, Seattle, and NE. Sad but true.

I would agree. I remember a while back people were debating whether or not the Skins were worst than Cleveland for the past 15 years... Just because that was a debate shows how sad the Skins have been.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by irish

True, unfortunately the Skins are closer to the likes of Cleveland, Oakland and Buffalo than perennial playoff contenders like GB, Seattle, and NE. Sad but true.

Im not gonna start today, but that's just a pestimistic view and not exactly true.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Im not gonna start today, but that's just a pestimistic view and not exactly true.

Some people around here love pessimism.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Some people around here love pessimism.

If Wilson has the same knee injury, Seattle doesnt win the superbowl last year and the fans all over the country would be questioning why cant Seattle get it done.

They are always circumstances, but to make a blanket statement such as franchises going in the opposite direction and then to follow that up with Buffalo, Cleveland and Raiders level of Skins is just garbage.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Im not gonna start today, but that's just a pestimistic view and not exactly true.

In the last 5 seasons:
Buff has 0 winning seasons.
Clev has 0 winning seasons
Oakland has 0 winning seasons but did finish 8-8 twice in that 5 years.
The Skins have 1 winning season.

Unfortunately this is the sad truth.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by irish

In the last 5 seasons:
Buff has 0 winning seasons.
Clev has 0 winning seasons
Oakland has 0 winning seasons but did finish 8-8 twice in that 5 years.
The Skins have 1 winning season.

Unfortunately this is the sad truth.

the position of the franchise is much greater than those programs. Anyone of those teams would gladly trade out their teams and coaching staffs for ours. 1 winning season was a division championship just 2 years ago.

U just cant bottomline it and say they are equals

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

the position of the franchise is much greater than those programs. Anyone of those teams would gladly trade out their teams and coaching staffs for ours. 1 winning season was a division championship just 2 years ago.

U just cant bottomline it and say they are equals

Equals? I didnt say that and I do think the Skins are a little better off than Clev or Buffalo. But that sad fact of the matter is that in 4 of the last 5 years the Skins are bottom dwellers just like the teams I mentioned. Heck, just the fact that we can even have this discussion means that its more true than not.