Where are the apologies?

[Cooley 350Z]

I am a fan of the washington redskins. Part of being a fan is that I don't always have to agree with every other fan of the team. If everyone came to this message board voicing the same opinions, we would have 500 threads of nothing but "i agree"'s. I am proud of my team & the way they played to beat the cowboys, that said, I still can't completely forget my reservations about Brunell. If he continues to play as he played in the last 3 minutes of the game, then maybe I will be, but even if it goes so far as for God himself to descend from the heavens & annoint the left arm of Mark Brunell, I absolutely will not come to this message board & apologize for my opinion...nor would I expect one from anyone else were our roles reversed. Enough splitting of the fans. Let's get past this & focus on the task at hand, the Seattle Seahawks @ Fedex. Hail.

[SUNRA]

What is quite obvious is that winning is not the ultimate goal for many of you who call yourselves fans of the Redskins. What matters to you is that your point of view is right and correct. When it is not correct, a diatribe of excuses and comments about what Brunell is or isn't becomes your main argument. I don't care if it was 1 second left on the clock to decide the outcome, so as long as we won. Some of you are so arrogant and negative with your views of Gibbs and Brunell, that you should consider reading some of the threads by fans of opposing teams and see if you don't sound like them in your attacks against the QB that you feel is washed up.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

What is quite obvious is that winning is not the ultimate goal for many of you who call yourselves fans of the Redskins. What matters to you is that your point of view is right and correct. When it is not correct, a diatribe of excuses and comments about what Brunell is or isn't becomes your main argument. I don't care if it was 1 second left on the clock to decide the outcome, so as long as we won. Some of you are so arrogant and negative with your views of Gibbs and Brunell, that you should consider reading some of the threads by fans of opposing teams and see if you don't sound like them in your attacks against the QB that you feel is washed up.

I was about to write a post saying let's put the whole Ramsey-Brunell QB debate behind us, be happy about the win, and look forward to next week. Now this. I really do not intend to sound aggressive and I do not want to pick or engage in a pissing contest. I know that your post was not directed at anyone in particular, but do not ever question my love of the Redskins.

If you would like to start an alternate fan-site that is based on the philosophy, "love it, don't question it, or leave it" that's fine. I invite you to do so. Just don't question fan loyalty here because a great many people don't share the same views you (or even Gibbs) do.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

What is quite obvious is that winning is not the ultimate goal for many of you who call yourselves fans of the Redskins. What matters to you is that your point of view is right and correct. When it is not correct, a diatribe of excuses and comments about what Brunell is or isn't becomes your main argument. I don't care if it was 1 second left on the clock to decide the outcome, so as long as we won. Some of you are so arrogant and negative with your views of Gibbs and Brunell, that you should consider reading some of the threads by fans of opposing teams and see if you don't sound like them in your attacks against the QB that you feel is washed up.

seriously on what basis are you pulling this bullsh*t from? just because YOU questioned Gibbs on getting rid of McCants means you want the team to lose?? or did that not happen SUNRA?

knowing your team's flaws and loving them and rooting for them IN SPITE of them is being a TRUE FAN. being oblivious to the bad things, pretending there are no problems and only sounding off on the positives is being a CHEERLEADER

[railcon56]

I thought we lived in America ...cause we disagree with the QB we arent fans??? I personally thought brunell sucked for most of the game he looked old. But he did make 2 great passes congrats to him... But i think Patrick would have thrown the ball downfield more....It's just years of frustration...I wouldn't be so quick to say I told you so just yet... Patrick will be back in there cause brunell will go down at some point... But fans can be critical of the team and the coach.... hey this is america..... Hail

[backrow]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

I thought we lived in America ...cause we disagree with the QB we arent fans??? I personally thought brunell sucked for most of the game he looked old. But he did make 2 great passes congrats to him... But i think Patrick would have thrown the ball downfield more....It's just years of frustration...I wouldn't be so quick to say I told you so just yet... Patrick will be back in there cause brunell will go down at some point... But fans can be critical of the team and the coach.... hey this is america..... Hail

I haven't seen any welcoming commitee for railcon, after 9 pages of non-appologies.

Welcome railcon! Hope to see you more often.

I'm not appologizing. I predicted a win by the B&G, and don't care whether it's PRam, M.Brunnell, J.Campbell or my favorite: Sonny!

I am extremely happy that we finally beat the cow manatees in their toilet bowl in the "Ring of Honor" game, a ring that we were able to steal!

I pray the bickering will tone down, and we can all support our favorite B&G, especially after we got win #2!

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by illdefined

seriously on what basis are you pulling this bullsh*t from? just because YOU questioned Gibbs on getting rid of McCants means you want the team to lose?? or did that not happen SUNRA?

knowing your team's flaws and loving them and rooting for them IN SPITE of them is being a TRUE FAN. being oblivious to the bad things, pretending there are no problems and only sounding off on the positives is being a CHEERLEADER

I questioned the size of our WRs and their effectiveness in the redzone. The exit of McCants left a question mark on who would be a big target. Gibbs indirectly answered my question by putting Taylor on offense in the redzone. Whether he is the answer, it remains to be seen. I don't have to criticize every WR on the team in order to support my view of McCants like you repeately have done with the point on Ramsey. Get over it. You may never see Ramsey on the field as a Redskin again.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

I questioned the size of our WRs and their effectiveness in the redzone. The exit of McCants left a question mark on who would be a big target. Gibbs indirectly answered my question by putting Taylor on offense in the redzone. Whether he is the answer, it remains to be seen. I don't have to criticize every WR on the team in order to support my view of McCants like you repeately have done with the point on Ramsey. Get over it. You may never see Ramsey on the field as a Redskin again.

yeah i remembered your argument, i concured. you certainly DID question Patten and Moss's ability in the redzone, so how is this any different? Ramsey at least is still a Redskin, McCants you DEFINITELY won't see as a Redskin again. what does any of this prove? yeah thats what i thought.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by illdefined

yeah i remembered your argument, i concured. you certainly DID question Patten and Moss's ability in the redzone, so how is this any different? Ramsey at least is still a Redskin, McCants you DEFINITELY won't see as a Redskin again. what does any of this prove? yeah thats what i thought.

It proves you can't accept the fact that Ramsey is finished as a Redskin. You were probably pissed that Brunell led the team to victory because you couldn't wait to jump on the website and shit on him. Mark Brunell has accomplished more in one game, than Ramsey has in four seasons. Gibbs should trade Ramsey during the bye week and pick up Skinner.

[BigSKINBauer]

First of all We all here are redskins fans, all of us doesn't matter what our opinions are because all of our opinions are in hopes that the team never ever loses a game and is just silly to question someone's liking of this team

I am still not sold on brunell but i think if ramsey had played all of the two games we would be 0-2 right now. I don't think ramsey could have done any better than Brunell at Dallas and we would have thrown atleast 2 INTs with ramsey. I just think that to win more games we need brunell in there, i don't think brunell is a good QB, just that he would win more than ramsey in our style of offense- the no mistake kind-

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Can we please stop rehashing the Brunell-Ramsey debate and enjoy the win for one day???!!!! Jesus, we're acting like we lost.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Can we please stop rehashing the Brunell-Ramsey debate and enjoy the win for one day???!!!! Jesus, we're acting like we lost.

We did the same thing last week. I don't think we know how to act after wins. They've come so few and far between.

Let's debate Stoutmire vs. Bowen now

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

We did the same thing last week. I don't think we know how to act after wins. They've come so few and far between.

Let's debate Stoutmire vs. Bowen now

You're a stupid moron ignoramus.....there's no debate there, Ohalete should be in.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

You're a stupid moron ignoramus.....there's no debate there, Ohalete should be in.

Ramseyfan, you ignorant slut. Stoutmire is so good that Ade, THE ADE, gave up his number #23 to him. Ohalete couldn't even hold on to his #26.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Ramseyfan, you ignorant slut. Stoutmire is so good that Ade, THE ADE, gave up his number #23 to him. Ohalete couldn't even hold on to his #26.

ooooooohhhhhh, good one...