Ravens release Ray Rice

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Cover up can be worse than the crime. Goodell should know better

Everybody, people/businesses included, should know better at this point, yet the former always seems to be the route people take. There aren't any secrets in this day and age of cameras everywhere.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Cover up can be worse than the crime. Goodell should know better

It's almost comical to think that if Goodell had admitted to seeing 'other' footage (ie the footage that was recently made public) when the two game suspension was originally announced that he would be in less trouble than he is now.

Speakin of which:
Ex-FBI director to investigate Ray Rice, NFL situation - FanSided - Sports News, Entertainment, Lifestyle & Technology - 280+ Sites

Originally Posted by Defensewins

The irony in all of this is two years ago, Roger Goodell told the Saints that ignorance was not a suitable defense in the Bountygate scandal. In the wake of the second Ray Rice video, the NFL commissioner is using that same defense. His credibility is gone.

LMAO! I didn't even think of that. Wow, this has really turned into a cluster.

[Hijinx]

You know who is realy concerned right now? Greg Hardy and Ray Mcdonald

[NC_Skins]

Rice’s wife: “How could you do this to me? I’m the mother of your kid” | ProFootballTalk

Spit in her face twice? Really? That's almost just as offensive as the hit. Hell, that would have ended the relationship alone.

[Defensewins]

This thing is exploding into a major scandal.
The AP story that a police office sent the video to the NFL back in April. That an NFL employee then called back to verify they received and saw it. That message from NFL is recorded.
Goodell canceled his speaking event tonight. The NFL main office is circling the wagons.
Ray Rice's attorney said he had a copy of the damaging elevator footage in the first meeting they had with NFL/Goodell investigating this attack and they never asked him for it. They did not even ask if a video existed. Plausible deniability.

The irony in all of this is two years ago, Roger Goodell told the Saints that ignorance was not a suitable defense in the Bountygate scandal. In the wake of the second Ray Rice video, the NFL commissioner is using that same defense. His credibility is gone.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

This thing is exploding into a major scandal.
The AP story that a police office sent the video to the NFL back in April. That an NFL employee then called back to verify they received and saw it. That message from NFL is recorded.
Goodell canceled his speaking event tonight. The NFL main office is circling the wagons.
Ray Rice's attorney said he had a copy of the damaging elevator footage in the first meeting they had with NFL/Goodell investigating this attack and they never asked him for it. They did not even ask if a video existed. Plausible deniability.

The irony in all of this is two years ago, Roger Goodell told the Saints that ignorance was not a suitable defense in the Bountygate scandal. In the wake of the second Ray Rice video, the NFL commissioner is using that same defense. His credibility is gone.

Check out the votes in Louisiana.
Should Roger Goodell resign or be fired in the wake of the Ray Rice situation? - Sportsnation - ESPN

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Check out the votes in Louisiana.
Should Roger Goodell resign or be fired in the wake of the Ray Rice situation? - Sportsnation - ESPN

They are still bitter, makes sense.

Again while I've been extremely critical of goodell, I still don't think he should go unless he personally saw the tape and lied about it. Yes mistakes were made, I don't think he should step aside.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

They are still bitter, makes sense.

Again while I've been extremely critical of goodell, I still don't think he should go unless he personally saw the tape and lied about it. Yes mistakes were made, I don't think he should step aside.

Yea I hear ya me too. I've Mofo'd him plenty. If he tried to pull some cover up crap he needs to go. But he didnt jump on the Skins name change bandwagon. tough one, I'll need to drink on it.

[Ruhskins]

All this focus on Goodell is allowing the Ravens organization to get away with their mishandling of the situation.

It was the Ravens organization which tweeted on their official Twitter account an apology from Janay Rice (which since has been deleted), it was the Ravens PR that featured Rice's marriage on their website, and the Ravens could have given Rice their own punishment.

I'm not saying Goodell and the NFL are innocent, but no one is calling for anyone in the Ravens to be held accountable for their cover up.

PS: Now there's a story where Ozzie Newsome says that Rice told them was happened in the elevator video:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...231233574.html

[JoeRedskin]

From the article, so much BS floating around on this one:

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said the league suspended Rice because his account was not consistent with what the video showed. Presumably, that was the Ravens' reason too, but we didn't know because their brass was in hiding.

Then Bisciotti, Cass and Newsome spoke to the Baltimore Sun on Wednesday, and Newsome said no, Rice told them what happened and that's what the tape showed.

Sun: "Did the video match the story Ray Rice told you?

"You know. Ray had given a story to John [Harbaugh] and I," Newsome said. "And what we saw on the video was what Ray said. Ray didn’t lie to me. He didn’t lie to me.”That certainly goes against the presumed narrative, that the Ravens and NFL had to take serious action against Rice after it saw the video, because something more happened on the surveillance video than they were told, and they were misled by Rice. But Newsome said, pretty clearly, that Rice told them exactly what was on the video.

I thought "the video changed things."

John Harbaugh said he only saw the Ray Rice tape on Monday. "It's something we saw for the first time today," Harbaugh said. "It changed things of course. It made things a little bit different."

John Harbaugh: Seeing the Ray Rice video 'changed things' - CBSSports.com

So Rice told them exactly what was on the tape. He didn't lie, he didn't mislead them. "I cold cocked her and knocked her out cold in one punch and then told the security officer she was drunk."

"Oh, okay Ray. Cool by us. Let's get her on the podium saying she asked for it and all will be good."

[NC_Skins]

@NBCdianna

NEW: Commissioner Roger Goodell announces ex-FBI director Robert Mueller III will conduct an independent investigation into Rice situation
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Commissioner Roger Goodell pledges Mueller will have the full cooperation of NFL personnel and access to all NFL records.
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The focus of the independent investigation? handling of Rice evidence. This will be overseen by owners Art Rooney and John Mara.



I have faith in this. /rollseyes

[SFREDSKIN]

49ers play by play announcers suspended 2 games for comments against Rice's wife.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ted-rob...022400695.html

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

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‏@NBCdianna

The focus of the independent investigation? handling of Rice evidence. This will be overseen by owners Art Rooney and John Mara.[/B]



I have faith in this. /rollseyes

Mara's involved so somehow this will roll back to being the Skins fault and we will lose a draft pick.

[OmahaRedskins]

Because of the Ray Rice drama, i haven't seen anymore articles on the Redskins name or RG3.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

Because of the Ray Rice drama, i haven't seen anymore articles on the Redskins name or RG3.

Amazing when there's real news to talk about. The BS stuff drops off the map.