Where are the apologies?

[Art_Monk_HOF]

What I don't understand about the Ramsey apologists is this: How can they say this decision was made quickly? Ramsey has never shown anything. He is entering his 4th year, and he has shown no signs of improvement. He wasn't good for Gibbs last year. He stunk up the joint in preseason, and he was outplayed by Brunell then. Ramsey did nothing to earn the job.

I'm not saying that Brunell is 'the answer' at this point. But, Patrick has done nothing to show that he deserves to be a starting QB in this league.

[DirtBagZ]

Whoa...did we not win the game last night! Maybe I am feeling differently about the whole QB controversy thing as an admited "Ramsey Apologist." Because I watched it all with my two eyes last night and we won I am not going to engage in anymore Burgundy and Gold bashing, the guys who wear that uniform are OUR guys.

Brunell brought the team back from what seemed an insurmountable lead at DALLAS! So let us enjoy it and stop with Brunell/Ramsey/Campbell debate. Do I have to scream it, "WE BEAT DALLAS!" It is time to rally around whoever is wearing the Burgundy and Gold.

As for Ramsey, lets root for him, maybe he'll get his confidence back since the pressure is off, if he gets called in to play we all need to be rooting for him and hoping that he is ready. Maybe a coach will pull him aside and show him some film of Trent Dilfer moving around in the pocket and rolling out against Green Bay. Last I thought Dilfer would never be confused for a mobile QB in the Steve Young mold, but he looked pretty good in the Packer game. So who is to say that Ramsey could not learn some new things, especially if he were to be coached, granted he is not the focus now, but who knows?

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by DirtBagZ

Whoa...did we not win the game last night! Maybe I am feeling differently about the whole QB controversy thing as an admited "Ramsey Apologist." Because I watched it all with my two eyes last night and we won I am not going to engage in anymore Burgundy and Gold bashing, the guys who wear that uniform are OUR guys.

yeah man, we did win, and i want to enjoy this historic win for at least a week before we get nasty amongst each other again. it's too soon for any I Told You So's but if someone wants to insist that the problems that were so apparent in 2004 weren't just as apparent last night, then with reluctance i'll throw out I Told You So's.

[steveo395]

i did apologize once in the game thread, but i'm definitely not sold on brunell yet.

4 minutes of good playing is not even close to enough

[joecrisp]

Originally Posted by Art_Monk_HOF

What I don't understand about the Ramsey apologists is this: How can they say this decision was made quickly? Ramsey has never shown anything. He is entering his 4th year, and he has shown no signs of improvement. He wasn't good for Gibbs last year. He stunk up the joint in preseason, and he was outplayed by Brunell then. Ramsey did nothing to earn the job.

I'm not saying that Brunell is 'the answer' at this point. But, Patrick has done nothing to show that he deserves to be a starting QB in this league.

Seems to me that Gibbs felt Ramsey was good enough last year to earn the starting job. He did, after all, name him the starter after seeing him improve over the course of the last few games (some of which were actually victories, believe it or not) last season.

Hmmm... are you questioning Gibbs's judgement? Seems awfully "un-Redskins Fan-like" of you. Maybe you should apologize to all of us for questioning what Gibbs ever saw in Ramsey to make him bench Mark Brunell and-- gasp!-- name Ramsey the 2005 starter. [/sarcasm]

Sorry. That statement was made in light of how ridiculous this "Holy Crusade of the Brunell Backers" has become.

Simply because people disagree with Gibbs's decision to start Brunell doesn't mean they're not Redskins fans. It doesn't mean they're Gibbs-haters or even Brunell-haters. It doesn't make them "Ramsey apologists," either. It simply means they have a different perspective on what's best for this team-- this team that they love and live and die for every bit as much as anyone else on this board.

There are those of us who prefer Brunell's cautious, conservative approach to "game management", and there are those of us who prefer Ramsey's youthful (if unrefined and sometimes ill-advised) aggressiveness. Both players-- because of their respective and numerous flaws-- have lost more games than they've won for this team, and neither have proven they're 'the answer'.

With the disparity in age of the two quarterbacks in this debate, perhaps the better question is, if Gibbs's decision wasn't made quickly, would it have been made at all?

Perhaps we'll never know.

[DirtBagZ]

All right time to repeat myself, I am going to be a hypocrite, for before I was a Brunell & Gibbs basher, and an admited, "Ramsey Apologist" but having seen the Miracle in Big-D, I see error of my ways. The guys who wear the burgundy and gold jersey are OUR guys. So let us stop the bashing of the burgundy and gold and of each other, as someone pointed out we are begining to sound like Eagles fans.

We need to be there for the burgundy and gold. For Ramsey we need to root for him, that learns everything he can from this coaching staff so that if his number is called as the back-up he is ready. We need to hope that someone from the coaching staff was watching film of the Clevland - Greenbay game and noted how Trent Dilfer was moving around and rolling out of the pocket. Trent is not exactly the second coming of Steve Young and suggest that Ramsey work on such things when he is not running the scout team. That my fellow burgundy and gold brothers is what we need to do.


-D

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by DirtBagZ

All right time to repeat myself, I am going to be a hypocrite, for before I was a Brunell & Gibbs basher, and an admited, "Ramsey Apologist" but having seen the Miracle in Big-D, I see error of my ways.

you shouldn't feel the need to apologize for your views 'Bagz, especially when the stats backed you up in every category. Monday night was great, but it didn't change the facts as Offiss so clearly pointed out. that said, we should rally behind whoever is leading our offense, there's enough uncertainty there already.