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Old 09-17-2014, 07:45 AM   #1
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Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Kirk did what he was supposed to do against a bad team.He's always looked more comfortable in the pocket since those 2 were rookies.He's had 1 good game in relief,he's got to be consistant.
Its way way too early to be talking about a controversy.I sincerely hope there is one by the time RG3 comes back because that would mean Kirk has done well and hopefully we have been winning games.
If Kirk plays like he did last year there is no controversy,you stick Griffin back in there.
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Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

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Kirk did what he was supposed to do against a bad team.He's always looked more comfortable in the pocket since those 2 were rookies.He's had 1 good game in relief,he's got to be consistant.
Its way way too early to be talking about a controversy.I sincerely hope there is one by the time RG3 comes back because that would mean Kirk has done well and hopefully we have been winning games.
If Kirk plays like he did last year there is no controversy,you stick Griffin back in there.
Yeah, I agree. Kirk doesn't need to be a hero, he just needs to play up to his abilities on a game-by-game basis. At this point, we don't know if he can do that.

I hadn't thought about it until just now, but this could be Kirk's last chance to become a starting NFL QB in the future. You never know when or even if he might have another chance to prove that he is starter material.

I wish him well.
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Kirk did what he was supposed to do against a bad team.He's always looked more comfortable in the pocket since those 2 were rookies.He's had 1 good game in relief,he's got to be consistant.
Baltimore and Cleveland in 2012. Late 2013 was a wash, though he looked decent against Atlanta. And now Jax.

Sure, 1 good game in relief.
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Baltimore and Cleveland in 2012. Late 2013 was a wash, though he looked decent against Atlanta. And now Jax.



Sure, 1 good game in relief.

I know about the years past,just meant this year
But since you bring it up Cleveland was another bad team that he beat
Last year he was not very good and he did not win a game
If Jacksonville would have had hpustons pass rush I'm sure that game would have been a different story
Anyway all I was saying is it's way too early to draw any conclusions on Capt. Kirk or this team yet although we should be two and oh with either quarterback
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I know about the years past,just meant this year
But since you bring it up Cleveland was another bad team that he beat
Last year he was not very good and he did not win a game
If Jacksonville would have had hpustons pass rush I'm sure that game would have been a different story
Anyway all I was saying is it's way too early to draw any conclusions on Capt. Kirk or this team yet although we should be two and oh with either quarterback
I love how every team we beat with Cousins is a bad team, it's just the Jags, Cleveland in 2012 was another bad team, etc. But Houston, one of the worst teams last season, that we lost with Griffin as our QB, is a "different story"?

I hope Griffin turns it around, but the spin here is ridiculous.


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Cleveland in 2012 was not in relief, he started that game.

In 2012 he came in relief against Atlanta and looked poor.
No, don't forget there's more to Cousins' body of work than just "one game in relief". That was my point. Some good, some bad. Like with Griffin.

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Old 09-19-2014, 11:03 AM   #6
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I love how every team we beat with Cousins is a bad team, it's just the Jags, Cleveland in 2012 was another bad team, etc. But Houston, one of the worst teams last season, that we lost with Griffin as our QB, is a "different story"?

I hope Griffin turns it around, but the spin here is ridiculous.


No, don't forget there's more to Cousins' body of work than just "one game in relief". That was my point. Some good, some bad. Like with Griffin.
Of course there is more to Cousins body of work than the game I mentioned. If you read my previous remark in context, you'll see that I was responding to a specific statement from another post.

So let's go to that body of work and look at career numbers for Cap'n Kirk:
9 games
74.3 QBR
57.6% completions
6.7 ypa
10 / 10 TDs/INT

Last year Cousins' interception % of 4.5 was one of the worst in the league. For comparison, Eli Manning's was 4.9% and he led the league in picks.
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Of course there is more to Cousins body of work than the game I mentioned. If you read my previous remark in context, you'll see that I was responding to a specific statement from another post.

So let's go to that body of work and look at career numbers for Cap'n Kirk:
9 games
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6.7 ypa
10 / 10 TDs/INT

Last year Cousins' interception % of 4.5 was one of the worst in the league. For comparison, Eli Manning's was 4.9% and he led the league in picks.
According to ESPN RGIII QBR in in 2013 was 40.1
In 2014 it was 36.1
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Of course there is more to Cousins body of work than the game I mentioned. If you read my previous remark in context, you'll see that I was responding to a specific statement from another post.

So let's go to that body of work and look at career numbers for Cap'n Kirk:
9 games
74.3 QBR
57.6% completions
6.7 ypa
10 / 10 TDs/INT

Last year Cousins' interception % of 4.5 was one of the worst in the league. For comparison, Eli Manning's was 4.9% and he led the league in picks.
But if you read my post in context, which appears unlikely, you would understand I was saying Kirk had other good games, not just "one game in relief" as was stated earlier in the post I was originally responding to. How that gets twisted into you telling me, "no this other game wasn't in relief!!!" rather than address that Kirk has had other good games....
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Baltimore and Cleveland in 2012. Late 2013 was a wash, though he looked decent against Atlanta. And now Jax.

Sure, 1 good game in relief.
Don't forget:

Cleveland in 2012 was not in relief, he started that game.

In 2012 he came in relief against Atlanta and looked poor.
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If this report is correct, RGIII could return in 8 weeks, which is before Thanksgiving.

Robert Griffin III's timetable for return is eight weeks - ESPN
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I would say that if he comes back after 8 weeks that would put him back in week 11 just after the week 10 bye.

Decisions will have to be made then and as of now there is no way of knowing how this will play out.
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If this report is correct, RGIII could return in 8 weeks, which is before Thanksgiving.

Nope , and if he does he won't be any good . I like Bob but he dislocated it, he rushed back from the knee injury and look what happen .Let him heal !
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Nope , and if he does he won't be any good . I like Bob but he dislocated it, he rushed back from the knee injury and look what happen .Let him heal !
His injury is not as serious as people want to make it out to be. Chill, his injury is the equivalent of shooting a jump shot and landing on someone's foot. your ankle rolls. HE will be in a cast 10 days.
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His injury is not as serious as people want to make it out to be. Chill, his injury is the equivalent of shooting a jump shot and landing on someone's foot. your ankle rolls. HE will be in a cast 10 days.
That is not correct. Rolling an ankle and dislocating are two different things. Dislocation is an extreme version of a sprain that makes the joint give way. Rolling your ankle is much less of an injury and you can be back in a few weeks. Dislocation can take a month or more if ligaments are torn. Something nobody has confirmed.
DeSean Jackson sprained his AC joint in his left shoulder. He will be week to week. If he had dislocated his shoulder he would we out 4 to 8 to 12 weeks.
Everyone heals at a different rate.
Once you dislocate a joint like an ankle or knee that supports all of your weight, that joint becomes loose and more prone to further injury. Rehab will help but the joint will never be 100% as strong it was before the injury. Add two ACL's to to that.

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Once you dislocate a joint like an ankle or knee that supports all of your weight, that joint becomes loose and more prone to further injury. Rehab will help but the joint will never be 100% as strong it was before the injury. Add two ACL's to to that.

This !!! Nice post .
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