Skins vs. Eagles Post-Game

[JoeRedskin]

I dunno, I think the "KC may be the next Rex Grossman" is more likely than "KC is the next Pat Ramsey." Ramsay was never as decisive as KC. Someone, somewhere said, "KC decides where he is going with the ball when he breaks the huddle. That's both his strength and his weakness."

Ramsey, well, he had a kick-ass arm.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I dunno, I think the "KC may be the next Rex Grossman" is more likely than "KC is the next Pat Ramsey." Ramsay was never as decisive as KC. Someone, somewhere said, "KC decides where he is going with the ball when he breaks the huddle. That's both his strength and his weakness."

Ramsey, well, he had a kick-ass arm.

Like I said, not talking about the players. Talking about the situation. My point is some people just don't get better. Will Cousins? I don't know. I sure hope so. But it's naive to just assume he will, which I think is what a lot of people here are doing

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Like I said, not talking about the players. Talking about the situation. My point is some people just don't get better. Will Cousins? I don't know. I sure hope so. But it's naive to just assume he will, which I think is what a lot of people here are doing

Exactly. When I say I am "afraid that is what he is" I mean this. What we saw yesterday matched what he was in college...he hasn't gotten better since then. For sure he can probably be a solid QB in the league. But I don't want Grossman/Schaub/Palmer. I want a guy who carries the team when needed. We'll see. I sincerely hope he can be that. We should be happy to deal with the controversy crap involving Robert when he comes back if it means Kirk has turned the corner and is growing beyond what we saw yesterday.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Like I said, not talking about the players. Talking about the situation. My point is some people just don't get better. Will Cousins? I don't know. I sure hope so. But it's naive to just assume he will, which I think is what a lot of people here are doing

Gotcha. I don't know either. I am certainly not making any assumptions about either at this point. My hope is that RGIII comes back and shows he has grown. I would imagine that when RGIII is ready to come back, we will have a better understanding of whether KC can improve on his game's weaknesses. In the end, if we have to gamble on one breaking out of old bad habits, I would prefer to gamble on RGIII. His ceiling is just soooo much higher than KC''s.

Actually, take that back, I am ready - right here, right now - to give KC a pass, sign him to huge, crippling Tony Romo like contract, and trade RGIII for a 7th rounder and a new third string groundskeeper. 'Cause you know, RGIII is just a bad QB and Kirk "white bread" Cousins is how I roll - me and Heath Evans.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Like I said, not talking about the players. Talking about the situation. My point is some people just don't get better. Will Cousins? I don't know. I sure hope so. But it's naive to just assume he will, which I think is what a lot of people here are doing

It's just as naive to assume he won't. It's more rare for guys to peak in their first few starts. There are far more examples of guys getting better with experience than vice versa. Being encouraged by his performance is a reasonable reaction to what he's done the last 2 weeks.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

It's just as naive to assume he won't. It's more rare for guys to peak in their first few starts. There are far more examples of guys getting better with experience than vice versa. Being encouraged by his performance is a reasonable reaction to what he's done the last 2 weeks.

I don't know that there are FAR more examples. But I take it you think I'm rooting against him, so it is what it is.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Being encouraged by his performance is a reasonable reaction to what he's done the last 2 weeks.

Agreed 100% with this sentence.

What is additionally reasonable is to try and be rational about the mistakes he made and how fundamental a few were and how important they ended up being. Lots of people are not being honest about that.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

It's just as naive to assume he won't. It's more rare for guys to peak in their first few starts. There are far more examples of guys getting better with experience than vice versa. Being encouraged by his performance is a reasonable reaction to what he's done the last 2 weeks.

I disagree. The NFL has had far more people that never reach the next level, just look at the length of the average NFL career. Some of that has to do with injuries, much of it has to do with individuals not having the skill set or mental aptitude for the game.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I disagree. The NFL has had far more people that never reach the next level, just look at the length of the average NFL career. Some of that has to do with injuries, much of it has to do with individuals not having the skill set or mental aptitude for the game.

Of course injuries can happen. I think what Deezel was saying is that based on KC's first few games as a starter, that it is more reasonable to expect him to flourish than to wilt. Not impossible for him not to pan out of course but based on the sample we have seen all signs point to yes. Atleast thats what my magic 8-ball says.