Giants Game Negatives

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Cousins pretty much doomed the young secondary and the defense. If your QB throws 4 INTs, your defense will not look good. Giving the opposing offenses good filed position and leaving your defense with no rest. We need to figure out how to stop the seam route. We need to get Moses coached up. We need to teach Cousins some intestinal fortitude (can you teach that?). RG3 would have taken the punishment and taken the responsibility on his self. RG3 does no throw passes up for grabs because he is under pressure. I noticed in the Eagles game when Cousins got hit or sacked. He looked terrified, he had the look of horror. RG3 took a lot of hits but that is better than throwing picks.

Robert is fearless.....his body is not
see....latest lost season to injury.

[gulliblefan]

I, as many skins fans, simply want a winning team, and not merely for a 7 game stretch at the end of a season. I too was drinking the Kool-Aid when RGIII was drafted because the hype was so high, but I don't think we can make excuses for why he hasn't progressed the way he should have by now. Perhaps the reason why he ran the offense he did in college is because that is all he is capable of doing. He is limited because he just doesn't have the ability to do the tangibles that all the greats do. If you really look close, and forget the hype for a minute or two, it becomes quite clear that RGIII is another great example of an amazing college quarterback without the ability to truly transition into the NFL. Watch his feet in the pocket, and see how he misses his reads. I don't think he wants to have happy feet, it just comes second nature to him and it is his only way of protecting himself as a result of his inability to read defenses and get the ball out fast. His 1st year, in my opinion, was a fluke due to the offensive scheme being tailored around him and having the most underrated running back in the NFL in Alfred Morris tote the ball. Heck, Kirk came in and won a game on the road, true it was against Cleveland, but he did it. And we can't forget that he came in, under pressure, and finished the job against Baltimore. I am not saying Kirk is where he needs to be yet, but let's try to forget, for one second that he was just a 4th round pick and didn't win a Heisman, and take a look at the fundamentals he possesses. If we do that, I don't know how we can't come to the conclusion that Kirk has a much higher ceiling in this league. A running quarterback without the ability to stay healthy, as well as the inability to make the reads and get the ball out on time, lacking to maximize the players ability around him, is not going to make it in this league. I truly hope RGIII, if he gets the opportunity again, proves me wrong, but I just don't see it happening for the long term.

Originally Posted by Hog1

Robert is fearless.....his body is not
see....latest lost season to injury.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by gulliblefan

I, as many skins fans, simply want a winning team, and not merely for a 7 game stretch at the end of a season. I too was drinking the Kool-Aid when RGIII was drafted because the hype was so high, but I don't think we can make excuses for why he hasn't progressed the way he should have by now. Perhaps the reason why he ran the offense he did in college is because that is all he is capable of doing. He is limited because he just doesn't have the ability to do the tangibles that all the greats do. If you really look close, and forget the hype for a minute or two, it becomes quite clear that RGIII is another great example of an amazing college quarterback without the ability to truly transition into the NFL. Watch his feet in the pocket, and see how he misses his reads. I don't think he wants to have happy feet, it just comes second nature to him and it is his only way of protecting himself as a result of his inability to read defenses and get the ball out fast. His 1st year, in my opinion, was a fluke due to the offensive scheme being tailored around him and having the most underrated running back in the NFL in Alfred Morris tote the ball. Heck, Kirk came in and won a game on the road, true it was against Cleveland, but he did it. And we can't forget that he came in, under pressure, and finished the job against Baltimore. I am not saying Kirk is where he needs to be yet, but let's try to forget, for one second that he was just a 4th round pick and didn't win a Heisman, and take a look at the fundamentals he possesses. If we do that, I don't know how we can't come to the conclusion that Kirk has a much higher ceiling in this league. A running quarterback without the ability to stay healthy, as well as the inability to make the reads and get the ball out on time, lacking to maximize the players ability around him, is not going to make it in this league. I truly hope RGIII, if he gets the opportunity again, proves me wrong, but I just don't see it happening for the long term.

I don't know if you are a troll or serious...
Is that you SBF?

[DirtBagZ]

Originally Posted by gulliblefan

I, as many skins fans, simply want a winning team, and not merely for a 7 game stretch at the end of a season. I too was drinking the Kool-Aid when RGIII was drafted because the hype was so high, but I don't think we can make excuses for why he hasn't progressed the way he should have by now. Perhaps the reason why he ran the offense he did in college is because that is all he is capable of doing. He is limited because he just doesn't have the ability to do the tangibles that all the greats do. If you really look close, and forget the hype for a minute or two, it becomes quite clear that RGIII is another great example of an amazing college quarterback without the ability to truly transition into the NFL. Watch his feet in the pocket, and see how he misses his reads. I don't think he wants to have happy feet, it just comes second nature to him and it is his only way of protecting himself as a result of his inability to read defenses and get the ball out fast. His 1st year, in my opinion, was a fluke due to the offensive scheme being tailored around him and having the most underrated running back in the NFL in Alfred Morris tote the ball. Heck, Kirk came in and won a game on the road, true it was against Cleveland, but he did it. And we can't forget that he came in, under pressure, and finished the job against Baltimore. I am not saying Kirk is where he needs to be yet, but let's try to forget, for one second that he was just a 4th round pick and didn't win a Heisman, and take a look at the fundamentals he possesses. If we do that, I don't know how we can't come to the conclusion that Kirk has a much higher ceiling in this league. A running quarterback without the ability to stay healthy, as well as the inability to make the reads and get the ball out on time, lacking to maximize the players ability around him, is not going to make it in this league. I truly hope RGIII, if he gets the opportunity again, proves me wrong, but I just don't see it happening for the long term.

Seriously enough of the RG3 bashing, sorry that your bubble got burst and you saw the real Kirk Cousins 4 INTs and a strip sack fumble, so much for the 'pocket awareness'. Any real Redskin fan knows there is much more to be concerned about than Cousins vs. Griffin.

The sad part is that there are some decent pieces in place, but by the time the sorry no account defense is fixed those pieces will be beyond their foootball prime.