Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by tshile

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but respect for Terry Allen and watching him run is pretty much the start of my Redskins memories. So while he played quite well for a guy with two reconstructed knees, his career was 10 years.

The QB position is different than RB, but if Griffin only had a 10 year career that would suck, all things considered.

(Unless that 10 years included a super bowl or two )

If Griffin goes on to have 10 great years after this season, I'd be OK with that. But most certainly, I believe we, as fans, should be entitled to witnessing as many winning seasons as we've endured losing seasons. That would seem to justify the madness of sticking with this team through thick and thin.

[calia]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

If Griffin goes on to have 10 great years after this season, I'd be OK with that. But most certainly, I believe we, as fans, should be entitled to witnessing as many winning seasons as we've endured losing seasons. That would seem to justify the madness of sticking with this team through thick and thin.

Are you kidding? If we got 10 years out of RGIII, that would be astounding. Here's what I found in doing a little digging into Redskins QBs -- admittedly borrowed from Wikipedia -- they are listed in order of the date of each player's first start at quarterback for the Redskins. If we get RGIII for the next 10 years, he would be the second longest tenured QB after Slingin' Sammy. (Sonny was a Redskin for 11 years, although the last part of that was the whole Sonny/Billy thing, which are my first memories of being a Redskin fan).

Season(s)
Quarterback(s)

2013
Robert Griffin III (13) / Kirk Cousins (3)

2012
Robert Griffin III (15) / Kirk Cousins (1)

2011
Rex Grossman (13) / John Beck (3)

2010
Donovan McNabb (13) / Rex Grossman (3)

2009
Jason Campbell (16)

2008
Jason Campbell (16)

2007
Jason Campbell (13) / Todd Collins (3)

2006
Mark Brunell (9) / Jason Campbell (7)

2005
Mark Brunell (15) / Patrick Ramsey (1)

2004
Mark Brunell (9) / Patrick Ramsey (7)

2003
Patrick Ramsey (11) / Tim Hasselbeck (5)

2002
Shane Matthews (7) / Patrick Ramsey (5) / Danny Wuerffel (4)

2001
Tony Banks (14) / Jeff George (2)

2000
Brad Johnson (11) / Jeff George (5)

1999
Brad Johnson (16)

1998
Trent Green (14) / Gus Frerotte (2)

1997
Gus Frerotte (13) / Jeff Hostetler (3)

1996
Gus Frerotte (16)

1995
Gus Frerotte (11) / Heath Shuler (5)

1994
Heath Shuler (8) / John Friesz (4) / Gus Frerotte (4)

1993
Mark Rypien (10) / Rich Gannon (4) / Cary Conklin (2)

1992
Mark Rypien (16)

1991
Mark Rypien (16)

1990
Mark Rypien (10) / Stan Humphries (5) / Jeff Rutledge (1)

1989
Mark Rypien (14) / Doug Williams (2)

1988
Doug Williams (10) / Mark Rypien (6)

1987
Jay Schroeder (10) / Ed Rubbert (3) / Doug Williams (2)

1986
Jay Schroeder (16)

1985
Joe Theismann (11) / Jay Schroeder (5)

1984
Joe Theismann (16)

1983
Joe Theismann (16)

1982
Joe Theismann (9)

1981
Joe Theismann (16)

1980
Joe Theismann (15) / Mike Kruczek (1)

1979
Joe Theismann (16)

1978
Joe Theismann (14) / Billy Kilmer (2)

1977
Billy Kilmer (8) / Joe Theismann (6)

1976
Billy Kilmer (9) / Joe Theismann (5)

1975
Billy Kilmer (12) / Randy Johnson (2)

1974
Billy Kilmer (10) / Sonny Jurgensen (4)

1973
Billy Kilmer (10) / Sonny Jurgensen (4)

1972
Billy Kilmer (10) / Sonny Jurgensen (4)

1971
Billy Kilmer (13) / Sonny Jurgensen (1)

1970
Sonny Jurgensen (14)

1969
Sonny Jurgensen (14)

1968
Sonny Jurgensen (12) / Jim Ninowski (2)

1967
Sonny Jurgensen (14)

1966
Sonny Jurgensen (14)

1965
Sonny Jurgensen (13) / Dick Shiner (1)

1964
Sonny Jurgensen (14)

1963
Norm Snead (14)

1962
Norm Snead (14)

1961
Norm Snead (14)

1960
Ralph Guglielmi (11) / Eagle Day (1)

1959
Eddie LeBaron (8) / Ralph Guglielmi (4)

1958
Eddie LeBaron (12) / Ralph Guglielmi (2)

1957
Eddie LeBaron (12)

1956
Al Dorow (7) / Eddie LeBaron (5)

1955
Eddie LeBaron (8) / Ralph Guglielmi (3) / Al Dorow (1)

1954
Jack Scarbath (7) / Al Dorow (5)

1953
Jack Scarbath (7) / Eddie LeBaron (5)

1952
Eddie LeBaron (7) / Sammy Baugh (5)

1951
Sammy Baugh (9) / Harry Gilmer (3)

1950
Sammy Baugh (7) / Harry Gilmer (5)

1949
Sammy Baugh (8) / Harry Gilmer (3)

1948
Sammy Baugh (3) / Tommy Mont (2)

1947
Sammy Baugh (1) / Jim Youel (5)

1946
Jim Youel (4) / Sammy Baugh (2) / Jack Jacobs (2)

1945
Sammy Baugh (8)

1944
Frank Filchock (6) / Sammy Baugh (4)

1943
Sammy Baugh (7) / George Cafego (3)

1942
Sammy Baugh (8) / Roy Zimmerman (American football) (1)

1941
Frank Filchock (10) / Sammy Baugh (1)

1940
Sammy Baugh (11)

1939
Frank Filchock (9) / Sammy Baugh (1) / Jim German (1)

1938
Bill Hartman (4) / Sammy Baugh (3) / Frank Filchock (2)

1937
Sammy Baugh (5)

1936
Eddie Britt (5) / Ed Smith (4)

1935
Pug Rentner (6) / Bill Shepherd (6)

1934
Steve Hokuf (9) / Pug Rentner (2)

1933
Jim Musick (11)

1932
Hank Hughes (9)

[skinsguy]

Wow, looking at that, it kind of puts things in perspective. Rypien only had two seasons where he started all 16 games.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Wow, looking at that, it kind of puts things in perspective. Rypien only had two seasons where he started all 16 games.

And look at Sammy, It looks like he was out a lot throughout his career. Also, he didn't play a whole season until his 4th year.

I don't know much about that time, but, was he often injured or what?

Edit: That said, there are plenty of teams that have had consistent QB's for many years, and they've stayed healthy. So, I don't think it is too high of an expectation to have our franchise QB stay healthy. It may be an unrealistic one though with Robert.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by WillH

And look at Sammy, It looks like he was out a lot throughout his career. Also, he didn't play a whole season until his 4th year.

I don't know much about that time, but, was he often injured or what?

Edit: That said, there are plenty of teams that have had consistent QB's for many years, and they've stayed healthy. So, I don't think it is too high of an expectation to have our franchise QB stay healthy. It may be an unrealistic one though with Robert.

Exactly, the Redskins were not a good baseline to use for that analysis. Try say Indy, Pitt, BAL, SD...etc.