Skins vs Seasquawks Positive and Negatives

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Other than the RG3 trade, when was the last time we gave up picks? I'm all for criticism, but you seem to have pull that out of the Vinny Cerrato criticism bag.

Hate to bring up the past but I will anyway. That trade is just killing this team right now.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Hate to bring up the past but I will anyway. That trade is just killing this team right now.

I hear you and agree.

On the other hand. The Skins need a QB. There was nothing else out there to get. PM didn't want to come to us, Luck went first overall, and our crystal ball was broken (drafting Wilson). Who else since that draft has there been available that is great QB or the potential to be one?


Honestly to bad the Cutler trade never went through.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I hear you and agree.

On the other hand. The Skins need a QB. There was nothing else out there to get. PM didn't want to come to us, Luck went first overall, and our crystal ball was broken (drafting Wilson). Who else since that draft has there been available that is great QB or the potential to be one?


Honestly to bad the Cutler trade never went through.

I dont mind Cutler and think he is decent. But he is one that I think will never win a Superbowl. I just cant see it.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I dont mind Cutler and think he is decent. But he is one that I think will never win a Superbowl. I just cant see it.

He is better then what we have now and would have stopped us from making that retarded RGIII draft.

At this point I don't want a super bowl I just want watch a team that doesn't look like a shit stain on my underwear.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mredskins

He is better then what we have now and would have stopped us from making that retarded RGIII draft.

At this point I don't want a super bowl I just want watch a team that doesn't look like a shit stain on my underwear.

I think you just found your new sig.

[skinsguy]

I don't want to hear about Jay Culter. Behind our offensive line, he would be renamed good ol Saint Nick. Ask Bears fans...they're not too happy over Jay Culter these days.

I do agree with the sentiment that you don't give away draft picks - first round draft picks, and expect to build a team. But let's face it. The season before RGIII and Cousins, the Redskins had John Beck and Rex Grossman. Let that set in for a bit.

Now, who knew that Russell Wilson was going to come in and play like he did? The Seahawks hadn't planned to start him right away. They got lucky with Wilson developing as fast as he did. And they also got lucky that Wilson didn't get hurt.

What gets me is that during the game last night, nobody was saying anything about the hits that Wilson was taking last night. Yeah, Gruden mentioned it, but not like it was when we'd see RGIII take hits. When RGIII ran the same play and took hits - "He's not going to be in the league very long if he's going to continue taking those hits".....Wilson takes the same hit - "Wow, Wilson got rocked but look how great he is!" Double standard in my opinion!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I don't want to hear about Jay Culter. Behind our offensive line, he would be renamed good ol Saint Nick. Ask Bears fans...they're not too happy over Jay Culter these days.

I do agree with the sentiment that you don't give away draft picks - first round draft picks, and expect to build a team. But let's face it. The season before RGIII and Cousins, the Redskins had John Beck and Rex Grossman. Let that set in for a bit.

Now, who knew that Russell Wilson was going to come in and play like he did? The Seahawks hadn't planned to start him right away. They got lucky with Wilson developing as fast as he did. And they also got lucky that Wilson didn't get hurt.

What gets me is that during the game last night, nobody was saying anything about the hits that Wilson was taking last night. Yeah, Gruden mentioned it, but not like it was when we'd see RGIII take hits. When RGIII ran the same play and took hits - "He's not going to be in the league very long if he's going to continue taking those hits".....Wilson takes the same hit - "Wow, Wilson got rocked but look how great he is!" Double standard in my opinion!

Well there's a double standard cause one guy has been healthy in his three seasons and one hasn't. For the most part Wilson protects himself. If Wilson starts getting hurt then it's another story.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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Well there's a double standard cause one guy has been healthy in his three seasons and one hasn't. For the most part Wilson protects himself. If Wilson starts getting hurt then it's another story.

With the hits that Wilson started taking last night, it's possible.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I don't want to hear about Jay Culter. Behind our offensive line, he would be renamed good ol Saint Nick. Ask Bears fans...they're not too happy over Jay Culter these days.

I do agree with the sentiment that you don't give away draft picks - first round draft picks, and expect to build a team. But let's face it. The season before RGIII and Cousins, the Redskins had John Beck and Rex Grossman. Let that set in for a bit.

Now, who knew that Russell Wilson was going to come in and play like he did? The Seahawks hadn't planned to start him right away. They got lucky with Wilson developing as fast as he did. And they also got lucky that Wilson didn't get hurt.

What gets me is that during the game last night, nobody was saying anything about the hits that Wilson was taking last night. Yeah, Gruden mentioned it, but not like it was when we'd see RGIII take hits. When RGIII ran the same play and took hits - "He's not going to be in the league very long if he's going to continue taking those hits".....Wilson takes the same hit - "Wow, Wilson got rocked but look how great he is!" Double standard in my opinion!

Hasnt RG3 missed significant time twice already in less than 3 years? Once avoiding a hit and once being hit. I dont see a double standard. I see the definition of injury prone QB. Dude needs to play smart and undercontrol, RG3 needs to take that away from RW game.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Hasnt RG3 missed significant time twice already in less than 3 years? Once avoiding a hit and once being hit. I dont see a double standard. I see the definition of injury prone QB. Dude needs to play smart and undercontrol, RG3 needs to take that away from RW game.

There's no difference between Wilson's game and RGIII's. Both place themselves in danger of getting rocked. Wilson got rocked quite a few times in last night's game. The only difference is that Wilson does a better job of sliding than RGIII. Something in which seems like it was corrected over the offseason by Griffin. Once Wilson starts getting hurt, you guys will see they're mirror images of each other.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Hasnt RG3 missed significant time twice already in less than 3 years? Once avoiding a hit and once being hit. I dont see a double standard. I see the definition of injury prone QB. Dude needs to play smart and undercontrol, RG3 needs to take that away from RW game.

Technically no, unless you consider 6(?) quarters of football significant time in his rookie year. He missed very little of the Ravens game, the entire Browns game and very little of the Seattle playoff game. He then missed an offseason, training camp and the preseason, when he was asking to play, so really, this is the first time he's missed "significant" time.

Sure, the offseason after year 1 should have been great for his development and, instead, he was rehabbing. However, those aren't games, so saying he's missed significant time twice is unfair. He HAS sustained 2 major injuries in his 3 years, however, and honestly, most of the rest of this post is arguing semantics, but I really think saying "he's missed significant time twice in 3 years" as though he's missed a bunch of starts is incorrect. He's only missing significant time now.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I don't want to hear about Jay Culter. Behind our offensive line, he would be renamed good ol Saint Nick. Ask Bears fans...they're not too happy over Jay Culter these days.

I do agree with the sentiment that you don't give away draft picks - first round draft picks, and expect to build a team. But let's face it. The season before RGIII and Cousins, the Redskins had John Beck and Rex Grossman. Let that set in for a bit.

Now, who knew that Russell Wilson was going to come in and play like he did? The Seahawks hadn't planned to start him right away. They got lucky with Wilson developing as fast as he did. And they also got lucky that Wilson didn't get hurt.

What gets me is that during the game last night, nobody was saying anything about the hits that Wilson was taking last night. Yeah, Gruden mentioned it, but not like it was when we'd see RGIII take hits. When RGIII ran the same play and took hits - "He's not going to be in the league very long if he's going to continue taking those hits".....Wilson takes the same hit - "Wow, Wilson got rocked but look how great he is!" Double standard in my opinion!

I'm sure this has been observed before
No Team Can Beat the Draft | FiveThirtyEight
The big thing it seems is accruing draft picks.

[NC_Skins]

Positive:

• Our punter. Tress Way average 49.9 yards per punt. Incredible.

• Kirk Cousins play in the second half. He started out slow in the first half, but seemed to get more aggressive as the game went on.

• Defensive adjustment in 2nd half.

• Kerrigan's pressure on Russell Wilson.

• Only 3 penalties the whole game.

Negatives:

• Special teams punt coverage (11.8 return average)

• kickoffs are still abysmal and led to good field position for Seattle.

• Defense in first half. What the fuck were these clowns doing for 10 days?

• Kerrigan and Orakpo over pursuing on their rushes to allow Wilson free reign to run. Kerrigan cleaned it up in 2nd half, but Orakpo still fell for it.

• Team's attitude after losses. As addressed by Jason Reid.
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...02d_story.html

• Drops from guys in key situations.

• 3-12 on third down conversions.

• Alfred Morris fumbling yet again and not effective last night.

• OL being dominated at the point of attack.

Not sure I should really put down "defensive adjustment in 2nd half" as a positive. Truth is, had Seattle not have shot themselves in the foot for most of the 1st half, this game wouldn't have even been remotely close. Twenty one points taken off the board due to stupid mental errors by Seattle. In fact, I'd say they were a bigger value to us than our defense. Not sure how you can neglect Russell Wilson as a runner. I mean for fucks sake, you allowed him damn near 100 yards rushing in the first half. It's too late to wait till the 2nd half for an adjustment because that game should have realistically been over at the half. Stopping Russell Wilson should have been in the game plan.