Skins vs. Cards Positives + Negatives

[htownskinfan]

The season is over so there's no sense sticking McCoy in there he might win a couple of games but he's not the future.
Teams and fans are too quick to give up on quarterbacks nowadays and don't want to give them any time to develop.
RG3 had all of last year to try to develop to a pocket passer but everybody is saying he needs more time to be patient.
Well Kirk has started four games this year and everybody's already saying get him out of there.
well Kirk needs time to develop just like anybody else he needs to stay in the lineup and take his lumps

[DirtBagZ]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

The season is over so there's no sense sticking McCoy in there he might win a couple of games but he's not the future.
Teams and fans are too quick to give up on quarterbacks nowadays and don't want to give them any time to develop.
RG3 had all of last year to try to develop to a pocket passer but everybody is saying he needs more time to be patient.
Well Kirk has started four games this year and everybody's already saying get him out of there.
well Kirk needs time to develop just like anybody else he needs to stay in the lineup and take his lumps

Sorry, but for the guy who supposedly has the 'better pocket presence' Kirk's numbers suck. Too many INTs, only one win as a starter, Griffin has faults but he is not the one man INT machine that is Cousins, case closed.

Case in point Carson Palmer somehow, completes a pass with at least two Redskins d-linemen. Cosins, either goes limp and gets slammed like a rag doll, or throws a horrible pick. If Griffin cannot come back, we may not win another game.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by DirtBagZ

Sorry, but for the guy who supposedly has the 'better pocket presence' Kirk's numbers suck. Too many INTs, only one win as a starter, Griffin has faults but he is not the one man INT machine that is Cousins, case closed.



Case in point Carson Palmer somehow, completes a pass with at least two Redskins d-linemen. Cosins, either goes limp and gets slammed like a rag doll, or throws a horrible pick. If Griffin cannot come back, we may not win another game.

Agree with everything you're saying,when RG3 is ready to come back go ahead and stick him in there,but i do not believe you stick mccoy in over Cousins
Let Cousins take his lumps

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

The season is over so there's no sense sticking McCoy in there he might win a couple of games but he's not the future.
Teams and fans are too quick to give up on quarterbacks nowadays and don't want to give them any time to develop.
RG3 had all of last year to try to develop to a pocket passer but everybody is saying he needs more time to be patient.
Well Kirk has started four games this year and everybody's already saying get him out of there.
well Kirk needs time to develop just like anybody else he needs to stay in the lineup and take his lumps

Kirk Cousins is regressing. He's got no "stage presence" at all

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Kirk Cousins is regressing. He's got no "stage presence" at all

So whats your point?
RG3 regressed also did he not?
You want Mccoy in there also?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

So whats your point?
RG3 regressed also did he not?
You want Mccoy in there also?

Yeah I do want Colt in there. Kirk's potential value as trade bait goes down with every game he plays.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah I do want Colt in there. Kirk's potential value as trade bait goes down with every game he plays.

Cereal! The guy has gone from being worth 3 first round picks all the way down to 2 first round picks. Is it illegal for teams to report fake injuries?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah I do want Colt in there. Kirk's potential value as trade bait goes down with every game he plays.

Realistically what do you think we could get for him at this point? I am sure there are several coaches and GMs with big egos that think they can do with KC what the Skins cannot, or do you see him as a valuable back up that teams would be willing to trade to upgrade?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Realistically what do you think we could get for him at this point? I am sure there are several coaches and GMs with big egos that think they can do with KC what the Skins cannot, or do you see him as a valuable back up that teams would be willing to trade to upgrade?

6th or 7th at best

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah I do want Colt in there. Kirk's potential value as trade bait goes down with every game he plays.

we'd be lucky to be able to trade kirk by adding draft picks to get rid of him

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah I do want Colt in there. Kirk's potential value as trade bait goes down with every game he plays.

This entire "trade KC talk" is stale. Why is everyone so obsessed about getting a draft pick of KC? Is it because the RG3 trade looks like crap right now? Clev offered a 3rd rounder last year? Would that player be helping this team right now? Probably not. He'd most likely be on the bench like Spencer Long is. KC is what he is right now, a 3rd year guy w/ little starting experience that's not good enough to carry a bad team.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah I do want Colt in there. Kirk's potential value as trade bait goes down with every game he plays.

You actually think Kirk has trade value left? IMO any trade value Kirk had has now been intercepted and heading the other way.Kirk needs to play and see if he can turn it around because his trade value aint worth jack now.

Frankly I'm not worried about his trade value,I want him to get as much experience as he can,when RG3 takes back the starting job it wont be for long because I dont believe he will ever be able to stay healthy,his body was not built for football.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

The season is over so there's no sense sticking McCoy in there he might win a couple of games but he's not the future.
Teams and fans are too quick to give up on quarterbacks nowadays and don't want to give them any time to develop.
RG3 had all of last year to try to develop to a pocket passer but everybody is saying he needs more time to be patient.
Well Kirk has started four games this year and everybody's already saying get him out of there.
well Kirk needs time to develop just like anybody else he needs to stay in the lineup and take his lumps

Kirk actually has had 7 games plus 2 full off seasons. He apparently is a very good back up, not so good starter. Gus was like that too. I would be surprised if he ever turned into more at this point. And you do have to wonder would we be worse off just starting McCoy. I doubt it.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Kirk actually has had 7 games plus 2 full off seasons. He apparently is a very good back up, not so good starter. Gus was like that too. I would be surprised if he ever turned into more at this point. And you do have to wonder would we be worse off just starting McCoy. I doubt it.

Kirk deserves his chance. He can still turn it around. If you yank him you ruin him. But if he has a game like 4 INTs first half you yank him at half but the next game you start him.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Kirk actually has had 7 games plus 2 full off seasons. He apparently is a very good back up, not so good starter. Gus was like that too. I would be surprised if he ever turned into more at this point. And you do have to wonder would we be worse off just starting McCoy. I doubt it.

Does anybody believe McCoy is going to save our season? If the answer is no then why bother? He is not the future

I am not saying cousins is the future,what I am saying is it doesn't make any sense to stick McCoy in the lineup

Two or three games ago everybody thought cousins was our future now everybody wants him to hit the road,Stick Mccoy in there!!

Cousins it's probably not the future but needs to take his lumps and get the experience just in case

I think what probably will end up happening is cousins getting cut or traded for a very low pick and then going to another team and becoming all pro,that seems to be the redskins luck