RG3 is back

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Originally Posted by mooby

Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't sure because of the lack of facts and evidence but you covered all the bases here.



@Punch: Wait now RG3's a douche? Did I miss a memo or something?



As far as this leak is concerned, it's pretty disappointing that we could barely get a couple days into the week before it leaks that he's going to start. Maybe he ends up sitting again but whatever element of surprise we had is gone now.

Whoa whoa whoa. Noooo. Lol.
I see how it sounded like that but I was actually referring to Matty calling Jonny Football a douche. So I was wondering who he thought less of. The douche or the knucklehead.
Edit: I should have been more specific but I remember
Quite a few pages of a thread being spent
On Jonny Football being a douche and how
We define douche - so I thought the reference
Was more obvious.

[tshile]

Originally Posted by mooby

@Punch: Wait now RG3's a douche? Did I miss a memo or something?

I think he's a douche.

But I could care less if he wins football games.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by tshile

I think he's a douche.

But I could care less if he wins football games.

Go stand in the corner for ten minutes!

[tshile]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Go stand in the corner for ten minutes!

It's OK if you do not agree with me.

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Originally Posted by ki skins fan

go stand in the corner for ten minutes!

lmao!

[Rotten1980]

Could it be Gruden letting everyone think RG is ready so the Vikings prepare for him, then McCoy gets the nod at game time?

But if RG's ready to roll, like for reals, Gruden needs to play him. He'll be a little rusty but if he's been studying the offense all these weeks it should come back pretty quick.

[Meks]

Well, while I was hoping he'd sit until after the bye and take the extra recovery time... I will certaintly be cheering for him on Sunday!

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Originally Posted by Meks

Well, while I was hoping he'd sit until after the bye and take the extra recovery time... I will certaintly be cheering for him on Sunday!

My thoughts exactly.
Colt looked pretty dang good against Dallas in Dallas on MNF! Its not like we are scrambling exactly. Can you imagine if Griff gets hurt? Whether it is related to the ankle or not there will be a huge wave of second guessing and possibly riots.

[tshile]

I don't get the opinions that Colt looked anything other than decent enough.

Maybe I'm just not giving him enough credit for the 2nd half?

I saw a QB that we were lucky didn't screw the game up for us...

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by tshile

I don't get the opinions that Colt looked anything other than decent enough.

Maybe I'm just not giving him enough credit for the 2nd half?

I saw a QB that we were lucky didn't screw the game up for us...

I thought he made some very good plays and some poor plays. Where he hurt us the most was with a few mental errors, one of which could have cost us the game in regulation time.

All things considered, he really competed and he made some fine plays that helped us win the game. I felt that he did a good job of not missing on the deep throws to DJAX, The touch pass to Reed on the sideline was excellent, and the TD run on the QB draw was outstanding. Most importantly, he got the job done in OT.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by tshile

I don't get the opinions that Colt looked anything other than decent enough.

Maybe I'm just not giving him enough credit for the 2nd half?

I saw a QB that we were lucky didn't screw the game up for us...

I don't understand your last point at all. Makes absolutely zero sense to me

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't understand your last point at all. Makes absolutely zero sense to me

Delay of games.
Calling the wrong play in the huddle.
Blowing timeouts to avoid even more delay of games.
Having multiple defensive stops/turnovers to start the game against an that offense, that coming into the game was really hot, but not capitalizing on them. Not capitalizing on this normally leads to losing the game later on...

It's not an opinion centered around stats, it's one centered around the eye test. McCoy just didn't look ready/prepared to me for quite a bit.

We stayed in the game because our defense played great from start to finish. And McCoy eventually settled in. But in the totality of the game, I personally am surprised Dallas wasn't able to get over the hump and eventually win.

When you listen to redskins fans and media you'd think McCoy had a lights out performance. That's just not what I saw at all.

Even more so, people are using the performance to justify not starting Griffin even if he is 'ready.' Which to me is absurd. To take that one game and walk away saying McCoy gives us a better chance to win than Griffin seems absurd to me. Yet, there are a lot of people doing it...

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by tshile

Delay of games.
Calling the wrong play in the huddle.
Blowing timeouts to avoid even more delay of games.
Having multiple defensive stops/turnovers to start the game against an that offense, that coming into the game was really hot, but not capitalizing on them. Not capitalizing on this normally leads to losing the game later on...

It's not an opinion centered around stats, it's one centered around the eye test. McCoy just didn't look ready/prepared to me for quite a bit.

We stayed in the game because our defense played great from start to finish. And McCoy eventually settled in. But in the totality of the game, I personally am surprised Dallas wasn't able to get over the hump and eventually win.

When you listen to redskins fans and media you'd think McCoy had a lights out performance. That's just not what I saw at all.

Even more so, people are using the performance to justify not starting Griffin even if he is 'ready.' Which to me is absurd. To take that one game and walk away saying McCoy gives us a better chance to win than Griffin seems absurd to me. Yet, there are a lot of people doing it...

McCoy was extremely nervous in the beginning and it showed. Heck, it showed in his pre-game interview. And, absolutely, he made some mental mistakes. But the thing is, these are mistakes that are easily corrected. McCoy showed an ability to hang in and make the big plays when the team needed them the most. That's something Kirk hasn't been able to do this year.

I think it really all depends upon how mentally ready RGIII is. He could very well come in and make the same mistakes, as well as making the big plays. Overall, I'm excited to see Griffin on the field as I didn't think we'd see him at all this season, but McCoy should definitely be #2.

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Originally Posted by tshile

Delay of games.

Calling the wrong play in the huddle.

Blowing timeouts to avoid even more delay of games.

Having multiple defensive stops/turnovers to start the game against an that offense, that coming into the game was really hot, but not capitalizing on them. Not capitalizing on this normally leads to losing the game later on...



It's not an opinion centered around stats, it's one centered around the eye test. McCoy just didn't look ready/prepared to me for quite a bit.



We stayed in the game because our defense played great from start to finish. And McCoy eventually settled in. But in the totality of the game, I personally am surprised Dallas wasn't able to get over the hump and eventually win.



When you listen to redskins fans and media you'd think McCoy had a lights out performance. That's just not what I saw at all.



Even more so, people are using the performance to justify not starting Griffin even if he is 'ready.' Which to me is absurd. To take that one game and walk away saying McCoy gives us a better chance to win than Griffin seems absurd to me. Yet, there are a lot of people doing it...

All I hear anyone saying is that Colt is capable of beating Minn until Griff is absolutely positively healthy and ready to take over, not that Colt gives us a better chance to win. Gotta look at the big picture.

As for Colts performance on Monday Night in Dallas against one of the better defenses and in his first start in years....you are upset that Colt took a little while to shake off the nerves before he played a beautiful second half and had a couple of critical and amazing plays to win the game for us?!?!?

[tshile]

Originally Posted by punch it in

All I hear anyone saying is that Colt is capable of beating Minn until Griff is absolutely positively healthy and ready to take over, not that Colt gives us a better chance to win. Gotta look at the big picture.

As for Colts performance on Monday Night in Dallas against one of the better defenses and in his first start in years....you are upset that Colt took a little while to shake off the nerves before he played a beautiful second half and had a couple of critical and amazing plays to win the game for us?!?!?

I agree that we're capable of beating Minnesota with McCoy. I also agree that Griffin should not be on the field until he is ready; health wise, athletically, and mentally. I'm assuming this coaching staff is not going to put him on the field unless he is ready. It's an assumption - but I have no reason to believe that Gruden is going to be forced into putting Griffin out there before he believe's he's ready. I agree with you about the big picture.

But people are saying even if Griffin is ready - sit him one more week. That's absurd. If Griffin is ready he's head and shoulders better than McCoy. You do not sit your starting QB if he is ready for a 3rd string QB that's had multiple shots and not earned a starting job. This is absurd logic. If he's ready, you play Griffin. We're 3-5. We **do not** have the luxury of strolling into any stadium, even our own, and sitting our starting quarterback when he's ready. The fact that some thing we do is absolutely laughable.

I'm not upset at McCoy for anything. He played exactly how he should be expected to, arguably better especially when it mattered in the second half. I'm simply pointing out that people are gushing over his performance and it was hardly an elite performance, much less one that warrants benching your starter (assuming he's ready) going on the road to try to pick up your 4th win in week 9.

This fan base loves the backup quarterback. The list is long. Get over it. Griffin is the best quarterback on this team until he's been given a chance to prove otherwise, and one game against Huston and < 15 snaps against Jacksonville is hardly proof he's all of the sudden not a good quarterback.

The only way it makes sense to me (assuming he falls under the all-encompassing term 'ready') is if you've already given up on the season and you think the only thing worth playing for is seeing if Griffin is the guy for next year.

And if you've already given up on the season after a 3-5 start then lol @ you because that's also absurd.