Skins-Vikes Post game good & bad

[DynamiteRave]

The Good:

Morris having a good showing.

DJax, good as usual.

Special teams did an alright job.

Breeland made a few plays here and there.

RG3.

The bad:

Defense collapsed the 2nd half of the game.

Haz is predictable and has no idea what it means to gameplan and adjust.

O-line seems to only be able to block properly (at least sometimes) for people not named RG3.

RG3.

[Lotus]

Ryan Clark is supposed to lead our defense through experience and communication. But we've had more blown coverages - "miscommunications" - than any time that I can remember. This has been true all season long.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Ryan Clark is supposed to lead our defense through experience and communication. But we've had more blown coverages - "miscommunications" - than any time that I can remember. This has been true all season long.

We heard all about the value of leadership BS when Fletcher was on his last legs here. Keenan Robinson has been a big upgrade. We need to find the same type of upgrade for Clark after this year.

[NC_Skins]

I like Gruden. Dude is upfront and tells it like it is. Also note the comment about the "fragile ego" was more or less directed towards Robert. It fits because you constantly see Robert tweeting some sort of defense to his detractors. I'm with Jay, man the fuck up, grow some thick skin or get the hell out of the league.

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I like Gruden. Dude is upfront and tells it like it is. Also note the comment about the "fragile ego" was more or less directed towards Robert. It fits because you constantly see Robert tweeting some sort of defense to his detractors. I'm with Jay, man the fuck up, grow some thick skin or get the hell out of the league.

The problem is if you list the "fails" or reasons for losing the game, RG is at the bottom. Gruden is more responsible, by a long way, simply because he's the HC. But more specifically here because Gruden still hasn't called an offensive game worthy of a win. Has Morris got over 20 carries in a game yet? Who the hell called a dink and dunk pass play right before the half?

You don't see great coaches call that shit. Most would pound the rock, but if you do pass it's downfield so if intercepted the opponent has a long field to go. If Gruden is learning, it's very slow at this point.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

The problem is if you list the "fails" or reasons for losing the game, RG is at the bottom. Gruden is more responsible, by a long way, simply because he's the HC. But more specifically here because Gruden still hasn't called an offensive game worthy of a win. Has Morris got over 20 carries in a game yet? Who the hell called a dink and dunk pass play right before the half?

You don't see great coaches call that shit. Most would pound the rock, but if you do pass it's downfield so if intercepted the opponent has a long field to go. If Gruden is learning, it's very slow at this point.

You realize you are exactly wrong, right? A 1 minute drill with time outs, you will always see 8-12 yard outs, trying to take advantage of the open middle and hope the receiver gets out, but with a timeout in the pocket you know you can call if he gets tackled. The long passes only come when there is no more time to move down the field methodically. And you don't pound the rock with less than a minute on the clock, because you need about 3 plays to get into FG position. If you are going to run Morris at that spot, then take a knee and come out and get the ball to start the half - of course had he done that then people would have lamented his lack of aggressiveness.

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

You realize you are exactly wrong, right? A 1 minute drill with time outs, you will always see 8-12 yard outs, trying to take advantage of the open middle and hope the receiver gets out, but with a timeout in the pocket you know you can call if he gets tackled. The long passes only come when there is no more time to move down the field methodically. And you don't pound the rock with less than a minute on the clock, because you need about 3 plays to get into FG position. If you are going to run Morris at that spot, then take a knee and come out and get the ball to start the half - of course had he done that then people would have lamented his lack of aggressiveness.

Disagree. Couldn't count the number of times I've seen Brady (especially), Rogers, Brees, and Mannings huck the ball downfield in exactly these situations. That's the whole point, if there's a turnover 30 yards downfield the opponent has more ground to cover. Especially when you've got Desean Jackson catching passes, right?

LOL where does the 8-12 yard exactitude come from? Wait, if it's 13-20 you might have an argument hehe

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

The problem is if you list the "fails" or reasons for losing the game, RG is at the bottom. Gruden is more responsible, by a long way, simply because he's the HC. But more specifically here because Gruden still hasn't called an offensive game worthy of a win. Has Morris got over 20 carries in a game yet? Who the hell called a dink and dunk pass play right before the half?

You don't see great coaches call that shit. Most would pound the rock, but if you do pass it's downfield so if intercepted the opponent has a long field to go. If Gruden is learning, it's very slow at this point.

Not sure how you got "RGIII is the reason for the loss" out of that post. That post had nothing to do with the loss, but a observation on Robert's need to shut out criticism and stop trying to be liked so much.

First and foremost, the defense failing is the major reason we lost to the Vikings. Giving up 30 points to a rookie QB that hasn't done shit the entire year is inexcusable, and 26 points should be enough to win a game.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

We heard all about the value of leadership BS when Fletcher was on his last legs here. Keenan Robinson has been a big upgrade. We need to find the same type of upgrade for Clark after this year.

Yeah, you are right. I love Fletch but are we really missing his 2013 version?

Adding a quality FS would make the whole defense better. You can attack the line more if you know someone has got your back.