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Old 11-16-2014, 04:54 PM   #1
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Shit runs down hill, and we are a dump. lol
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You start with the offensive line. Rebuild from there. How many times? It ain't rocket science. I'm not even American and I can recognise that basic prerequisite. Your quarterback isn't going to realise his potential without this. Too many years thinking that you don't need to spend high draft picks to get decent protection. These days you do; athletes both mental and physical are required. Foundations man. FOUNDATIONS.
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Gruden is are only hope, but he needs a little autonomy from the front office. IMO in order to be successful we need to clean house with some folks in the front office.

Also think bruce needs to go from personel decisions and it's time to hire a real gm
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Gruden is are only hope, but he needs a little autonomy from the front office. IMO in order to be successful we need to clean house with some folks in the front office.

Also think bruce needs to go from personel decisions and it's time to hire a real gm
^This. The front office dysfunction and lack of structure there will continue to hold this team hostage until we bring in a real GM.
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So far I haven't been too impressed with Gruden. In my head I keep giving him the benefit of the doubt due to our team but I have not liked what I have seen with play calling and adjustments. His quote after the Giants game of not preparing for that game left a bad taste in my mouth and I can't wait to hear his "my bad" presser for this game
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:31 PM   #6
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I'm not sure Bruce Allen is the real problem with talent evaluation. I seriously doubt Bruce sits in the war room and says "OK boys, here's who we're drafting next" or "here's the Free Agent list we're going after".

How many of our Scouts and Free Agent evaluators have been here during the Snyder years? I think we need to hold those folks accountable for the many years of failure as well.
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I'm not sure Bruce Allen is the real problem with talent evaluation. I seriously doubt Bruce sits in the war room and says "OK boys, here's who we're drafting next" or "here's the Free Agent list we're going after".

How many of our Scouts and Free Agent evaluators have been here during the Snyder years? I think we need to hold those folks accountable for the many years of failure as well.
Every franchise has hits and misses......every player you draft or every free agent you sign will not work out. For every Ryan Kerrigan and Trent Williams, there's a Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly.
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Every franchise has hits and misses......every player you draft or every free agent you sign will not work out. For every Ryan Kerrigan and Trent Williams, there's a Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly.
True, but you have to admit we have more "misses" than say the Packers or Steelers....and that started way before Bruce....just saying.


I think BA has brought much more professionalism to the organization since he arrived.

But hey, we got the pitch forks out, so let's light the torches!
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True, but you have to admit we have more "misses" than say the Packers or Steelers....and that started way before Bruce....just saying.


I think BA has brought much more professionalism to the organization since he arrived.

But hey, we got the pitch forks out, so let's light the torches!

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I think it just seems that way since we are so vested in this team. It may also be because we have a tradition of trading away draft picks and not collecting them, which appears to be the most effective way to succeed at the draft.
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:20 PM   #10
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right now I don't care who you puut behind center - our o-line sucks and who ever is back there will get killed
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:47 PM   #11
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Jay Gruden seems likable enough, but he his not pro HC material and there's no evidence he'll grow into it even at this point. I tried to say before the game, good coaches have their team sharp after a bye week. The team, offense especially, was sloppy and unprepared today. Grudens not a leader.
The scheme and play-calling are crap too. Grudens not the guy.

But Snyder can't stop there. Allen's produced HALF a quality season in 5 years. Remember how aweful the first half of 2012 was. Otherwise Allen's product has been absolute shit.

I wouldn't hold it against Snyder at all for cleaning house, starting this week maybe.
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If I was Bruce Allen, I would help Jay by bringing back Trent Baalke (one time Redskin national scout) to whatever the position above GM is, pay him whatever it takes. Have you guys seen the talent this guy has brought to the 49ers?

Baalke has done as well as anyone in the NFL since 2010, when he began overseeing the 49ers’ personnel department. Under his guiding hand, the 49ers’ drafts have yielded standout starters such as Anthony Davis, Mike Iupati, NaVorro Bowman, Aldon Smith, Kaepernick and Reid. Since Baalke took over as general manager, the 49ers have gone 36-11-1.

This year alone:

Jimmy Ward 1st round
Carlos Hyde 2nd round
Marcus Martin 3rd round
Chris Borland 3rd round
Aaron Lynch 5th round (best pick of the 49ers this year)

Time to clean our front office
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:57 PM   #13
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Robert had a bad game. He stopped looking downfield, whether it was from pressure or scheme. He just stopped looking downfield. I have asked for years before Robert what is the process for QB progression in Washington? Does the QB have the choice of who to throw it too or does he have to throw it to the primary targeted receiver. Because it seems like the same problem since Brad Johnson left.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:08 PM   #14
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Just make AJ SMITH co-GM. Make AJ responsible for selecting players, Bruce for negotiating contracts. From there, AJ hires a new scouting department.
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^ yep yep. It is more about us thinking we can beat the system.
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