Bucs Postgame Thread

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

As to Oline, sure, we have only a couple guys in the 1st or 2nd round, but we have drafted several in the 3rd and 4th and more in the 6th and 7th. If you look around the league, lots of good, solid lines have guys who were drafted in later rounds or were brought in as UFA's.

Other than a stretch under Vinny, we have consistently brought in linemen. If you constantly bring in solid developmental guys, the odds are that you will get some good starters along the way and continue to develop depth.

The plan is not inherently flawed. The execution has been.

1 of 2 things is happening in my opinion. 1) Our scouts/personnel guys are bringing home a bunch of spoiled food or 2) Our coaches don't know how to cook

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

1 of 2 things is happening in my opinion. 1) Our scouts/personnel guys are bringing home a bunch of spoiled food or 2) Our coaches don't know how to cook

I am going with a large dose of No.1 and a sprinkling of No.2. I blame scouting/personnel b/c I think the Forrester and Gruden are solid coaches. Are they stellar, Forrester, no. Gruden, it's year 1 but he has been very successful in all past stops.

I always thought scouting was a strength. Wasn't one of the knocks on Shanny - by Allen - that he overruled the scouts? Was it just a case of the blind leading the blind??

[sevier2]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

1 of 2 things is happening in my opinion. 1) Our scouts/personnel guys are bringing home a bunch of spoiled food or 2) Our coaches don't know how to cook

I think the best way to answer that question is to look at the amount of coaching changes we've had and compare that to the number of scout personnel changes we've had.

I don't know the figures but I DO know we've had a LOT of coaches here, who did very well in other organizations (Shannahan, Schottenheimer, etc.)

Unless these coaches throw out their previous experience when they get here I can't blame them. Like we've all stated before, It's starts at the top with the owner and upper management putting the right pieces in place (which I don't believe they are) and then translates to the coach and staff, which in turn trickles down to the players.

So forget the players. We need to clean up this office and I DONT mean adding ANOTHER "talent evaluator." Clean out the useless jobs we have (Can anyone explain what Greg Williams does?) that are only adding more dumb opinions and undermining our true GM (which we currently don't have) and put in some real football knowledgable personnel.

PLEASE!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by sevier2

I think the best way to answer that question is to look at the amount of coaching changes we've had and compare that to the number of scout personnel changes we've had.

I don't know the figures but I DO know we've had a LOT of coaches here, who did very well in other organizations (Shannahan, Schottenheimer, etc.)

Unless these coaches throw out their previous experience when they get here I can't blame them. Like we've all stated before, It's starts at the top with the owner and upper management putting the right pieces in place (which I don't believe they are) and then translates to the coach and staff, which in turn trickles down to the players.

So forget the players. We need to clean up this office and I DONT mean adding ANOTHER "talent evaluator." Clean out the useless jobs we have (Can anyone explain what Greg Williams does?) that are only adding more dumb opinions and undermining our true GM (which we currently don't have) and put in some real football knowledgable personnel.

PLEASE!

Greg Williams?

[sevier2]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Greg Williams?

Doug. Doug Williams is what I meant. I was lost in the heat of the moment.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by sevier2

Doug. Doug Williams is what I meant. I was lost in the heat of the moment.

Next General Manager/Lackey in training

Currently, assists in all personnel matters primarily trades/free agents

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Next General Manager/Lackey in training

Currently, assists in all personnel matters primarily trades/free agents

why? thats terrible


you right lackey...*sigh* same ole redskins.


Is this the reason you said your worried about the direction of the organization?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Next General Manager/Lackey in training

Currently, assists in all personnel matters primarily trades/free agents

Pardon me for saying so, but am I the only one who has the impression that Doug Williams is dumber than dirt?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Pardon me for saying so, but am I the only one who has the impression that Doug Williams is dumber than dirt?

I wouldn't say that

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Next General Manager/Lackey in training

Currently, assists in all personnel matters primarily trades/free agents

Lackey to whom? BA? DS?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Lackey to whom? BA? DS?

Matty