Bucs Postgame Thread

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not like we were stocking up on OL in the first two rounds before that though

And I will say, the hogs were not a group of first round draft picks when bobby Beathard brought them to Washington. But, he was Bobby freakin' Beathard. The man was legend at finding those great late rounders and free agents. So I understand great offensive linemen aren't always in the first or even second rounds, but the 'skins talent evaluators have to be good enough to recognize where and when to find them. And they have not been successful at those mid to late rounders in terms of the offensive line.

It also has something to do with coaching as well. Some coaches can "coach 'em up" and turn an average linemen into a solid guy, but I haven't seen that so far in recent years. Buges - I thought he did OK with what he had here at last.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

And I will say, the hogs were not a group of first round draft picks when bobby Beathard brought them to Washington. But, he was Bobby freakin' Beathard. The man was legend at finding those great late rounders and free agents. So I understand great offensive linemen aren't always in the first or even second rounds, but the 'skins talent evaluators have to be good enough to recognize where and when to find them. And they have not been successful at those mid to late rounders in terms of the offensive line.

It also has something to do with coaching as well. Some coaches can "coach 'em up" and turn an average linemen into a solid guy, but I haven't seen that so far in recent years. Buges - I thought he did OK with what he had here at last.

Beathard probably had as many garbage picks as gems. But he gave himself many opportunities to find those gems, which maybe is the key

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Beathard probably had as many garbage picks as gems. But he gave himself many opportunities to find those gems, which maybe is the key

He sure did. Anyone remember Tory Nixon?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He sure did. Anyone remember Tory Nixon?

Good memory with Tory Nixon. And Beathard missed on many others. But, as SS indicated, he tended to hold on to draft picks and trade back, thus giving himself more chances for hits. Darth Hoody does the same in New England.

We don't develop our draft picks. Coaching failures.

Plus we traded three #1's and a #2 for a QB who lacks a clock in his head.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He sure did. Anyone remember Tory Nixon?

Nixon Gets a Second Chance With 49ers : Cornerback Was Top Pick of Redskins, but He Didn't Measure Up - Los Angeles Times

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Nixon Gets a Second Chance With 49ers : Cornerback Was Top Pick of Redskins, but He Didn't Measure Up - Los Angeles Times

Lasted with the Niners long enough to get a Super Bowl ring (1988). Now the head of a bank in California.

https://www.calbanktrust.com/about-u...ornia-division

The more you know.

[KI Skins Fan]

We made the front page of cbssports.com today and here is the article:

The Redskins had two weeks to prepare for the one-win Buccaneers. When it was over (perhaps predictably, in retrospect), Tampa Bay left FedEx Field with its second win of the season and Washington was again left to wonder where it all went wrong.

For former Redskins player Brian Mitchell, who now has the depressing duty of covering the team for CSN Washington, it was too much. Here's how his postgame rant began (via Sports Bog):

"Embarrassing. This is atrocious. It's despicable. It's pathetic. I think it's asinine. As we look at this football game and this football team -- and it's not just Robert, OK, I want fans out there to stop blaming just the quarterback. The defense was atrocious, the offensive line was terrible, dropping balls, throwing balls to people. Everybody had a part in this. There are players that, they can't play themselves into the right position. We sit here every week and we want to blame that one guy. Yes, they gave up a lot for him, but from coaching, to decision-makers, to players, everybody is playing a part. ...

"I see a lot of players blaming media and everybody else, and running around as if they've won the damn Super Bowl somewhere. This team has sucked over the last few years, OK? And as a former player, I'm embarrassed to watch this junk, over and over again. And yes, I come on this air and I have to try and be professional and not say what -- I wish, let the FCC tell me today, 'Say what the hell you want to say, Brian.' And I will call out names and tell them exactly what I feel. Because a lot of guys who want to be big time and talking about what they think and what the media shouldn't be doing, play some damn football. You sucked on the field today, and you know who you are. I don't have to say their names. You know who you are."

Meanwhile, NBC Sports NFL analyst Rodney Harrison thinks it's time to pull the plug on the Robert Griffin III experiment.

"He's been in the league three years," Harrison said. "If you need six more games to determine if he's going to be your future quarterback, you need a new coach and a new scouting department. I've seen enough. I don't think he fits in the system. I think you have to get rid of him. ...

"They've surrounded [Griffin] with great weapons," he continued. "I just think it comes down to RGIII. I don't think he can read coverages. The offensive line is really bad. Defensively they gave up a lot of plays. They have a lot of issues on this team."

On this we can all agree.

But former Redskins cornerback Shawn Springs thinks Griffin will remain the team's starter in 2015. Not so much because he's earned it, but because that's the way owner Dan Snyder wants it.

After conceding that both Colt McCoy and Kirk Cousins would have scored more than seven points and taken fewer than six sacks against the Bucs, Springs got to the truth of the matter, at least as he sees it.

"Snyder's gonna make sure (RG3's) the starting quarterback," he told 106.7 The Fan. "You have no choice. You have no choice. That move would set the franchise back like 10 years. You gave up three first-rounders. ... You have to live with that. You married your wife and she was skinny, then all of a sudden she gained 50 pounds. You've got to work with her a little bit, you know? How about the line; can you go get some people to protect him?"

So yeah, it's business as usual for the Redskins Traveling Circus.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Beathard probably had as many garbage picks as gems. But he gave himself many opportunities to find those gems, which maybe is the key

And maybe it could be, simply, that the front office just hasn't given themselves enough opportunity (because of cap space, cap penalties, lack of high round picks) to find those gems as well. I'd love to think it's simply a lack of opportunity - but I think it's more than just a lack of opportunity.