Expectations for the rest of the season...

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm not saying fire him, just that so far he's not doing a good job. And fair or not if he doesn't start winning some games he's going to be on the hot seat sooner rather than later.

The honeymoon is over, we need to start seeing some signs that he can get things on the right track. So far he's shown to have little command over the locker room and the team is seriously underperforming across the board.

What were your expectations coming into the season for them to be under performing? I could care less if he loses this locker room. It isn't his locker room and I wouldn't mind him cleaning house and bringing in his own locker room.

Most coaches don't adjust to their locker rooms. They just bring in guys they want.

[SFREDSKIN]

Jay Gruden's comments about Robert Griffin III portend deeper problems | The MMQB with Peter King

[SFREDSKIN]

Injuries can’t explain away QB Robert Griffin III’s ongoing struggles | The MMQB with Peter King

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Injuries can’t explain away QB Robert Griffin III’s ongoing struggles | The MMQB with Peter King

Great post and article. It's frustrating as a fan to never see the play downfield from the camera angle. Does anybody know where to get good views downfield?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Great post and article. It's frustrating as a fan to never see the play downfield from the camera angle. Does anybody know where to get good views downfield?

Certainly not from RG-3's helmet cam.....

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Great post and article. It's frustrating as a fan to never see the play downfield from the camera angle. Does anybody know where to get good views downfield?

Google "All 22." That should help your quest.

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by mooby

Google "All 22." That should help your quest.

Thanks!!!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Jay Gruden's comments about Robert Griffin III portend deeper problems | The MMQB with Peter King

Pretty clear cut. This gets back to what my biggest fear has been since 2012. That Griff doesnt have the talent inside him to be the type of qb you need to be in this league to win consistently. Not all great guitar players can learn how to play a violin. Not all great bakers can cook a perfect steak. Not all great painters can sculpt a perfect statue. They can probably do these things better than the average guy but for what we paid, and for what we need that is not good enough. We need him to be great. If we had a killer d, and a killer oline than maybe we could accept average. We do not and we can not.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Pretty clear cut. This gets back to what my biggest fear has been since 2012. That Griff doesnt have the talent inside him to be the type of qb you need to be in this league to win consistently. Not all great guitar players can learn how to play a violin. Not all great bakers can cook a perfect steak. Not all great painters can sculpt a perfect statue. They can probably do these things better than the average guy but for what we paid, and for what we need that is not good enough. We need him to be great. If we had a killer d, and a killer oline than maybe we could accept average. We do not and we can not.

The problem with your analogy is that RGIII has all of the skills to "learn the violin," so the problem is not talent.

What holds back RGIII is in his head.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Lotus

The problem with your analogy is that RGIII has all of the skills to "learn the violin," so the problem is not talent.



What holds back RGIII is in his head.

A great guitar player has talent. - talent to be just that - a great guitar player. Doesnt mean he can take that talent and apply it to a violin.
Griff is a great spread offense/ read option type qb. Doesnt mean he can apply that to a pro style offense. If he could dont you think we would be seeing an inkling of that?
He can tell him self that he can do it all he wants. I need to see it to believe it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Lotus

The problem with your analogy is that RGIII has all of the skills to "learn the violin," so the problem is not talent.

What holds back RGIII is in his head.

He may have the skills to learn it, but can he do it at a concert or in front of a live crowd? That's the issue. He may look ok at practice when he knows he's not going to get hit. But game time, he can't process everything at game speed. The NFL passing game seems to fast for him.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He may have the skills to learn it, but can he do it at a concert or in front of a live crowd? That's the issue. He may look ok at practice when he knows he's not going to get hit. But game time, he can't process everything at game speed. The NFL passing game seems to fast for him.

Fair enough. We agree that the problem is mental, not talent.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Fair enough. We agree that the problem is mental, not talent.

This is getting off topic now and we are splitting hairs. It doesnt really matter why he doesnt get it just that he doesnt get it. However, if it is a mental thing and not talent than would it be fair to say that you could take any 6-2, 220 lb twenty something who runs fast and can throw a football and put them in the NFL? I mean how do you define talent? Isnt the ability to master any craft a talent? I think you are confusing athleticism and talent.
Edit: Skinsfan didnt say talent he said skills. It takes "talent" to apply the physical skill set to a craft and have it translate into success.