Jay Gruden you are our only hope

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Rivers is on his 3rd OC in 3 years. It's not that uncommon.

And, I don't recall the OL looking so awful when Colt (even Kirk) were playing QB.

You quoted the guy that agreed with you but since the response was intended for me.

As for Philip Rivers. Did they bring in 3 different systems? Slight changes in what you do is one thing, an entirely new system is quite different. Since I dont follow them, I have no clue as to that answer. Even so, I would expect a vet QB to handle changes better than a young one.

The OL was bad in the Houston game and RG3 threw short passes. He was criticized for short passes. Colt does the same thing, short passes. But he is also not trying to learn the WCO on the fly and is better at his timing in this offense, I have never said otherwise. Kirk just took a three step drop and threw it, who cares who it was to. Not exactly a great standard to judge an OL. Although if you remember the Giants game, remember those hits Cousins took. Remember it was shortly after those hits that the just drop and throw regardless of who it went to started happening. I would say the OL had a pretty big impact on KC. He went from running the offense efficiently to hurrying everything as fast as possible regardless of the outcome.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

You quoted the guy that agreed with you but since the response was intended for me.

As for Philip Rivers. Did they bring in 3 different systems? Slight changes in what you do is one thing, an entirely new system is quite different. Since I dont follow them, I have no clue as to that answer. Even so, I would expect a vet QB to handle changes better than a young one.

The OL was bad in the Houston game and RG3 threw short passes. He was criticized for short passes. Colt does the same thing, short passes. But he is also not trying to learn the WCO on the fly and is better at his timing in this offense, I have never said otherwise. Kirk just took a three step drop and threw it, who cares who it was to. Not exactly a great standard to judge an OL. Although if you remember the Giants game, remember those hits Cousins took. Remember it was shortly after those hits that the just drop and throw regardless of who it went to started happening. I would say the OL had a pretty big impact on KC. He went from running the offense efficiently to hurrying everything as fast as possible regardless of the outcome.

The changes aren't radical from Kyle to McVay either

I'm not saying the OL's been great. But I'm pretty tired of the blame always been shifted to them.

For fuck's sake, Robert your the anointed (even self-anointed) franchise QB of one of the most storied organizations in pro sports history, the team mortgaged a huge chunk of its future for you? Is that your fault? No, but so what. Life is not fair. Get the fuck over yourself and man up. And if you can't, if the problem is that after all the effort and hard work you're putting you're still not grasping it then it's time to move the fuck on. Fucking A

[SFREDSKIN]

Ex-Redskins applaud Jay Gruden’s blunt talk - The Washington Post

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Ex-Redskins applaud Jay Gruden’s blunt talk - The Washington Post

The question is why Gruden can't get this kind of commitment, effort and focus from his players?

It's too easy and inaccurate to just say no coach has done that under Snyder's ownership. Gibbs did, Williams did, hell even Greg Blache did out of his players.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The changes aren't radical from Kyle to McVay either

I'm not saying the OL's been great. But I'm pretty tired of the blame always been shifted to them.

For fuck's sake, Robert your the anointed (even self-anointed) franchise QB of one of the most storied organizations in pro sports history, the team mortgaged a huge chunk of its future for you? Is that your fault? No, but so what. Life is not fair. Get the fuck over yourself and man up. And if you can't, if the problem is that after all the effort and hard work you're putting you're still not grasping it then it's time to move the fuck on. Fucking A....

that was intended for you Skinz

And thats part of the problem. We never want to fix a problem. Its always just say fuck it and move on. To me, thats a HUGE problem. There are clear problems to be solved, but as long as we can hire 10 coaches in 10 years, that is deemed a solution for some reason. Its not a solution at all, its a problem.

Its one of the main reasons we are no longer the Raiders of the East, but are making the Raiders the Redskins of the West.

Edit... Hehe - I got the intended for me in my quote before you got it edited. And no, thats not a shot at you, I just found it funny.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

And thats part of the problem. We never want to fix a problem. Its always just say fuck it and move on. To me, thats a HUGE problem. There are clear problems to be solved, but as long as we can hire 10 coaches in 10 years, that is deemed a solution for some reason. Its not a solution at all, its a problem.

Its one of the main reasons we are no longer the Raiders of the East, but are making the Raiders the Redskins of the West.

You can't remove Snyder... I think he is the biggest problem.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by donofriose

You can't remove Snyder... I think he is the biggest problem.

I honestly cant say I disagree with you.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The changes aren't radical from Kyle to McVay either

I'm not saying the OL's been great. But I'm pretty tired of the blame always been shifted to them.

For fuck's sake, Robert your the anointed (even self-anointed) franchise QB of one of the most storied organizations in pro sports history, the team mortgaged a huge chunk of its future for you? Is that your fault? No, but so what. Life is not fair. Get the fuck over yourself and man up. And if you can't, if the problem is that after all the effort and hard work you're putting you're still not grasping it then it's time to move the fuck on. Fucking A

Love Robert.....really hope he can grasp the situation and rise to the occasion for many reasons. BUT...time will tell. And if it's"move on time", then so be it