Jay Gruden you are our only hope

[Gary84Clark]

Let Gruden pick a QB in the draft and trade RG3. Prediction: Gruden 2 seasons and done.

[skinsguy]

Gruden needs another couple of seasons. There's a difference between a 3-8 coach who has shown a lack of competency, and a 3-8 coach who's trying to work with what has been given to him. Let's face it, RG3 lost the ball game yesterday. He was clearly the weakest link. I surprised McCoy didn't enter the game.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Gruden needs another couple of seasons. There's a difference between a 3-8 coach who has shown a lack of competency, and a 3-8 coach who's trying to work with what has been given to him. Let's face it, RG3 lost the ball game yesterday. He was clearly the weakest link. I surprised McCoy didn't enter the game.

Gruden lost that game by not inserting McCoy and not giving Moses any help or bringing in Palumbus and moving Compton to LT. He was content to let RGIII fail and lose the game in the process. Then he blamed the offensive players afterwards. That makes Gruden a loser in my book. That was a winnable game. I couldn't care less if Gruden were to resign tomorrow, if that is his attitude.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Gruden lost that game by not inserting McCoy and not giving Moses any help or bringing in Palumbus and moving Compton to LT. He was content to let RGIII fail and lose the game in the process. Then he blamed the offensive players afterwards. That makes Gruden a loser in my book. That was a winnable game. I couldn't care less if Gruden were to resign tomorrow, if that is his attitude.

LOL! Trent Williams, our only pro bowl linemen, had his hands full with Aldon Smith that last time the 'skins played the 49ers. What makes you think Compton would have faired any better at left tackle than Moses? Anyone who had the task of going up against Smith would have failed. There's no competent adjustments Gruden could have made on the offensive line. None. And don't even speak of Polumbus. LOL!!!

RGIII failed on his own. I understand he doesn't have all day to sit back and wait for a receiver to come wide open, but RGIII made a bad offensive line look even worse. Gruden gave Griffin plays to help build his confidence, and RGIII couldn't answer the bell. He even started mixing in some read option, and Griffin couldn't failed. I've been as big of an RGIII supporter as anybody on this forum, but even a blind man can see that RGIII just doesn't get it.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

LOL! Trent Williams, our only pro bowl linemen, had his hands full with Aldon Smith that last time the 'skins played the 49ers. What makes you think Compton would have faired any better at left tackle than Moses? Anyone who had the task of going up against Smith would have failed. There's no competent adjustments Gruden could have made on the offensive line. None. And don't even speak of Polumbus. LOL!!!

RGIII failed on his own. I understand he doesn't have all day to sit back and wait for a receiver to come wide open, but RGIII made a bad offensive line look even worse. Gruden gave Griffin plays to help build his confidence, and RGIII couldn't answer the bell. He even started mixing in some read option, and Griffin couldn't failed. I've been as big of an RGIII supporter as anybody on this forum, but even a blind man can see that RGIII just doesn't get it.

I see you conveniently overlooked the idea of bringing in Colt. And Gruden could certainly have used a TE or RB to help out Moses. Yet he did neither. I'm not supporting the way RGIII has been playing but this particular game was winnable and Gruden did not do enough to win it. A coach should always try to win, right? Right?

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I see you conveniently overlooked the idea of bringing in Colt. And Gruden could certainly have used a TE or RB to help out Moses. Yet he did neither. I'm not supporting the way RGIII has been playing but this particular game was winnable and Gruden did not do enough to win it. A coach should always try to win, right? Right?

Id wait for the film breakdown to see how often moses was left 1 on 1 in situations when he shouldnt have.

Was it supposed to be quick pass plays when he was left 1 on 1?

Did a TE or RB occasionally blow his assignment of chipping or staying and helping? our TE blocking has been pretty bad this year.

Did we have to give Moses help on every single passing play?

A lot of unknowns.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Id wait for the film breakdown to see how often moses was left 1 on 1 in situations when he shouldnt have.

Was it supposed to be quick pass plays when he was left 1 on 1?

Did a TE or RB occasionally blow his assignment of chipping or staying and helping? our TE blocking has been pretty bad this year.

Did we have to give Moses help on every single passing play?

A lot of unknowns.

Moses and Long at oline were both seen a project picks where it might take several years. I dont see Moses as a surprise...actually thought overall he was better than expected yesterday.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I see you conveniently overlooked the idea of bringing in Colt. And Gruden could certainly have used a TE or RB to help out Moses. Yet he did neither. I'm not supporting the way RGIII has been playing but this particular game was winnable and Gruden did not do enough to win it. A coach should always try to win, right? Right?

No, I didn't conveniently overlook the idea of bringing in Colt. I'm just simply looking at this from a level head. The Redskins were still in a position to win the ball game, and RGIII was given a chance to respond. With all the crap that went on in the media prior to the game, this was the best thing for Gruden to do - and that's to stick with Griffin and give him a chance to play through his struggles. Griffin had a golden chance to redeem himself in the eyes of the fans and his coaching staff. He didn't get the job done. Let's be realistic. The Redskins' season was over when they lost to Tampa Bay. You spend several #1 picks on a quarterback, you expect him to win you ball games in the situation the 'skins were in yesterday. Gruden needed to know if Griffin could pull this game out. He didn't.

I'm not even going to address the idea of leaving a back or TE in to block. Many of those sacks Griffin took were because he held onto the ball too long. There were receivers open. Griffin just can't react quick enough. His speed in 2012 covered up a lot of his mistakes. He no longer has that speed, so he has less room for error.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Gruden lost that game by not inserting McCoy and not giving Moses any help or bringing in Palumbus and moving Compton to LT. He was content to let RGIII fail and lose the game in the process. Then he blamed the offensive players afterwards. That makes Gruden a loser in my book. That was a winnable game. I couldn't care less if Gruden were to resign tomorrow, if that is his attitude.

You keep saying the same thing. Why would you replace a player with a worse one? You can just switch Tackles like they are corners