49ers Postgame Thread

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by irish

He didnt blame the players, he blamed the coaches. He said they have to do a better job of simplifying the play calling for the QB and O-Line that they have now. I read that as he recognized that the current players assembled on O dont have the skills to run an NFL caliber offense and the coaches have to adjust better to work with the talent they have.

I think JG has a very strong will to win but is IMO being hampered by having to figure out how to make one player into an NFL QB apparently at the expense of 51 other players.

I agree with this assessment of Gruden's current predicament.

Does he stop trying to instill an NFL passing playbook 11 games into his first HC job and just call the junk that got garcon 113 catches last year (drags, screens, crosses = plays that dont require timing, anticipation or reading a key defender)

or

Does he continue to struggle trying to find a balance of what RG3 can do and still utilizing his playbook. Week in, week out seems like it is trial and error with a lot of fails.

Mcvay was here the last couple years so i imagine he is telling gruden what kinda worked last year...

idk .. tough to ask a rookie HC to swallow his pride and vision and replace it with HS stuff that still wont win but make your star Qb look less horrible .... even if it is a mirage.

[irish]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

I agree with this assessment of Gruden's current predicament.

Does he stop trying to instill an NFL passing playbook 11 games into his first HC job and just call the junk that got garcon 113 catches last year (drags, screens, crosses = plays that dont require timing, anticipation or reading a key defender)

or

Does he continue to struggle trying to find a balance of what RG3 can do and still utilizing his playbook. Week in, week out seems like it is trial and error with a lot of fails.

Mcvay was here the last couple years so i imagine he is telling gruden what kinda worked last year...

idk .. tough to ask a rookie HC to swallow his pride and vision and replace it with HS stuff that still wont win but make your star Qb look less horrible .... even if it is a mirage.

I dont really know what should be done but what I do know is that this isnt the developmental league, its the NFL. At some point this coach/organization has to decide if it wants to place more emphasis on developing a single player or on winning games because it seems at this point the two are mutually exclusive.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by irish

I dont really know what should be done but what I do know is that this isnt the developmental league, its the NFL. At some point this coach/organization has to decide if it wants to place more emphasis on developing a single player or on winning games because it seems at this point the two are mutually exclusive.

i think the deciding factor will be what many are saying .... a QB switch will be made when sticking with RG3 will start causing Gruden to lose the locker room ... guys like d jax and garcon will, hopefully, be constructive protesters and not destructive ones.

but .. wasnt gruden's deciding factor with cousins = when another QB gives us a better chance to win.

i just want to play out the year without a locker room blow out. as a fan, i really like watching d jax and want to see him stay for the next few years.

[irish]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i think the deciding factor will be what many are saying .... a QB switch will be made when sticking with RG3 will start causing Gruden to lose the locker room ... guys like d jax and garcon will, hopefully, be constructive protesters and not destructive ones.

but .. wasnt gruden's deciding factor with cousins = when another QB gives us a better chance to win.

i just want to play out the year without a locker room blow out. as a fan, i really like watching d jax and want to see him stay for the next few years.

From what I heard on the radio, D Jax and Garcon are very very frustrated. Garcon's frustration was obviously evident when he was asked about him throwing yesterday's only deep ball. IMO, there is no chance D Jax returns to this mess next year.

It was but it looks like the only QB that seems to give the Skins the best chance of winning is Colt (yes, its a really small sample size) and that's sad.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by irish

From what I heard on the radio, D Jax and Garcon are very very frustrated. Garcon's frustration was obviously evident when he was asked about him throwing yesterday's only deep ball. IMO, there is no chance D Jax returns to this mess next year.

It was but it looks like the only QB that seems to give the Skins the best chance of winning is Colt (yes, its a really small sample size) and that's sad.

D-Jax is on a two year contract. Has there ever been a QB who was shell shocked to making a comeback