Skins vs. Colts Gameday Thread

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So I take it you have that 2009 game against the Raiders on permanent repeat huh?

Gary is mostly spot on on this one. Murphy does have more sacks than Rak had, but the sack totals are misleading in this case. Rak was constantly around the QB(at least when he rushed), he just couldn't ever close the deal this year for some reason. Murphy is a rookie, and it definitely shows. He doesn't bring near the heat Rak did(it's funny how when I type Rak it autocorrects to Rank.)

Kerrigan-Rak>Kerrigan-Murphy, and it's really not close at this point. I think Murphy can eventually be a good all-around rusher, but developing an outside rush will take time. He's not the athlete Kerrigan and especially Rak are, but he seems like a smart and instinctual player. In terms of playing style, the Jared Allen comparison is accurate IMO.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Gary is mostly spot on on this one. Murphy has more sacks than Rak had, but the sack totals are misleading in this case. Rak was constantly around the QB when he rushed, he just couldn't ever close the deal this year for some reason. Murphy is a rookie, and it definitely shows. He doesn't bring near the heat Rak did(it's funny how when I type Rak it autocorrects to Rank. )

Kerrigan-Rak>Kerrigan-Murphy, and it's really not close at this point. I think Murphy can eventually be a good all-around rusher, but developing an outside rush will take time. He's not the athlete Kerrigan and especially Rak are, but he seems like a smart and instinctual player. In terms of playing style, the Jared Allen comparison is accurate IMO.

Jared Allen??? Murphy's solid against the run, but he's a terrible pass rusher. I mean he doesn't even sniff the QB at all. I'm getting the feeling that this was not a good draft pick.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Gary is mostly spot on on this one. Murphy does have more sacks than Rak had, but the sack totals are misleading in this case. Rak was constantly around the QB(at least when he rushed), he just couldn't ever close the deal this year for some reason. Murphy is a rookie, and it definitely shows. He doesn't bring near the heat Rak did(it's funny how when I type Rak it autocorrects to Rank.)

Kerrigan-Rak>Kerrigan-Murphy, and it's really not close at this point. I think Murphy can eventually be a good all-around rusher, but developing an outside rush will take time. He's not the athlete Kerrigan and especially Rak are, but he seems like a smart and instinctual player. In terms of playing style, the Jared Allen comparison is accurate IMO.

So Rak puts pressure on the QB every single game then....ok, I didnt say anything about Murphy. I was referring to his statement that Rak puts pressure on the QB all the time.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Gary is mostly spot on on this one. Murphy does have more sacks than Rak had, but the sack totals are misleading in this case. Rak was constantly around the QB(at least when he rushed), he just couldn't ever close the deal this year for some reason. Murphy is a rookie, and it definitely shows. He doesn't bring near the heat Rak did(it's funny how when I type Rak it autocorrects to Rank.)



Kerrigan-Rak>Kerrigan-Murphy, and it's really not close at this point. I think Murphy can eventually be a good all-around rusher, but developing an outside rush will take time. He's not the athlete Kerrigan and especially Rak are, but he seems like a smart and instinctual player. In terms of playing style, the Jared Allen comparison is accurate IMO.

How is Gary spot on? All he says is Rak is great and Murphy sucks. Last time I checked Murphy is a rookie, and he isnt getting paid like Rak was.
If you think the Jared Allen comparison is a good one for Murphy than how the hell are you going to agree with Gary that he sucks.
I swear the we need to start winning because the logic and posts are looking awfully 3-13 ish too around here.
Edit: also im with Quake - rak didnt put pressure on the qb all the time. Not even close. How quickly we forget.
Edit 2; im not necessarily referring directly to your post as much as the overall-fire Gruden, Murphy sucks, etc

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[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by punch it in

How is Gary spot on? All he says is Rak is great and Murphy sucks. Last time I checked Murphy is a rookie, and he isnt getting paid like Rak was.
If you think the Jared Allen comparison is a good one for Murphy than how the hell are you going to agree with Gary that he sucks.
I swear the we need to start winning because the logic and posts are looking awfully 3-13 ish too around here.
Edit: also im with Quake - rak didnt put pressure on the qb all the time. Not even close. How quickly we forget.
Edit 2; im not necessarily referring directly to your post as much as the overall-fire Gruden, Murphy sucks, etc

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G84C was referring to how much more pressure Rak gets than Murphy, and I was agreeing with him on that. I guess I should have quoted his post instead of EARTHQUAKE's.

As for the Jared Allen comparison, I've said twice already that I'm not comparing them skill-wise. I'm saying their styles of play are similar. Someone from CBS Sports made the comparison pre-draft, and I agree with it. Murphy has a long ways to go to reach Allen's skill level, but I like his toughness and smarts and definitely think he can be a solid starter eventually.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

G84C was referring to how much more pressure Rak gets than Murphy, and I was agreeing with him on that. I guess I should have quoted his post instead of EARTHQUAKE's.



As for the Jared Allen comparison, I've said twice already that I'm not comparing them skill-wise. I'm saying their styles of play are similar. Someone from CBS Sports made the comparison pre-draft, and I agree with it. Murphy has a long ways to go to reach Allen's skill level, but I like his toughness and smarts and definitely think he can be a solid starter eventually.

Fair enough but lets look at the whole picture - Rak was drafted and paid to do a hell of alot more than he did. Murphy although probably taken a round or two too soon is doing just fine as a rookie (while being coached by one of the bigger jokes of a DC in the league).


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[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Fair enough but lets look at the whole picture - Rak was drafted and paid to do a hell of alot more than he did. Murphy although probably taken a round or two too soon is doing just fine as a rookie (while being coached by one of the bigger jokes of a DC in the league).


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He has no explosion.