No indictment in the mike brown case

[Giantone]

Some people in this thread need to read this ........,and think a long time .


Ferguson grand jury documents show inconsistencies in witness testimony - CBS News

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Some people in this thread need to read this ........,and think a long time .


Ferguson grand jury documents show inconsistencies in witness testimony - CBS News

I think you are missing the point that the standards of police treatment for some groups of people in this country are different compared to others.

I don't know what your background is and if you're not a person of color, I don't expect you to understand what is like to be a person of color in this country even during these times.

The same way that I as a male will very likely never what is like to be a woman during time when you see rapes happening all the time and there being a culture where in some cases it is not seen as a big deal (see UVA case).

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think you are missing the point that the standards of police treatment for some groups of people in this country are different compared to others.

I don't know what your background is and if you're not a person of color, I don't expect you to understand what is like to be a person of color in this country even during these times.

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First and foremost , there are shitty Cops out there and I fully agree things can and should be handle differently .We are all people of color the law is the law and police are there to enforce the law ,Mo and NY are 2 different situations the only thing similar is both guys had broken the law (allegedly) and resisted arrest .In the Brown case he initiated the confrontation by reaching into the police car and going for the cops gun (all facts) .In Garner's case the dumb ass Cop use a illegal choke hold where many other tactics would have worked considering there were many officers there I don't get it .I still maintain that both were doing something illegal and had they listen to the police and do what was told .....as all people should do they would be alive ,I'm from the same school as JR ,kiss ass to you are out then fight it in court .So I'll ask the question since people just want to burn everything down,are people of color ....above the law ,you own a gas station in town and "the people burn it down" ...is that ok ?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

First and foremost , there are shitty Cops out there and I fully agree things can and should be handle differently .We are all people of color the law is the law and police are there to enforce the law ,Mo and NY are 2 different situations the only thing similar is both guys had broken the law (allegedly) and resisted arrest .In the Brown case he initiated the confrontation by reaching into the police car and going for the cops gun (all facts) .In Garner's case the dumb ass Cop use a illegal choke hold where many other tactics would have worked considering there were many officers there I don't get it .I still maintain that both were doing something illegal and had they listen to the police and do what was told .....as all people should do they would be alive ,I'm from the same school as JR ,kiss ass to you are out then fight it in court .So I'll ask the question since people just want to burn everything down,are people of color ....above the law ,you own a gas station in town and "the people burn it down" ...is that ok ?

So if I dont kiss ass I should suffer the consequences? NO

I treat everyone with respect and I expect the samething from everyone including a police officer. To think you have to kiss someone ass in order to get favorable treatment...Bullshit. These fucking cops need to read the fucking constitution.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So I'll ask the question since people just want to burn everything down,are people of color ....above the law ,you own a gas station in town and "the people burn it down" ...is that ok ?

People of color are not above the law. No one is saying that Brown or Garner were being saints or that they are innocent of what they were doing.

However, the trend in this country is that in similar situations if Brown and Garner are white, they'd likely be in jail right now, but alive.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

People of color are not above the law. No one is saying that Brown or Garner were being saints or that they are innocent of what they were doing.

However, the trend in this country is that in similar situations if Brown and Garner are white, they'd likely be in jail right now, but alive.

OK, who knows if Brown did all this, but lets look at this example:

Are you saying that if a big white guy walking down the street gets into an argument with a cop in his car, reaches in, punches the cop, struggles for the gun, shot fired, big white guy runs off a ways, then says "you're too big a p***y to shoot me" to the cop, and runs back at him, the big white guy would likely just be in jail instead of dead now?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

OK, who knows if Brown did all this, but lets look at this example:

Are you saying that if a big white guy walking down the street gets into an argument with a cop in his car, reaches in, punches the cop, struggles for the gun, shot fired, big white guy runs off a ways, then says "you're too big a p***y to shoot me" to the cop, and runs back at him, the big white guy would likely just be in jail instead of dead now?

*sigh*

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

*sigh*

Yep. Seems kinda ridiculous to say "If he were white, he'd be alive", if Brown did that kind of crap. Like he did when he shoplifted at the store, right before the shooting incident.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

OK, who knows if Brown did all this, but lets look at this example:

Are you saying that if a big white guy walking down the street gets into an argument with a cop in his car, reaches in, punches the cop, struggles for the gun, shot fired, big white guy runs off a ways, then says "you're too big a p***y to shoot me" to the cop, and runs back at him, the big white guy would likely just be in jail instead of dead now?

The trend in this country appears to be that white males in dangerous situations are more likely to come out alive:

Armed man shot, injured by San Diego police in Mission Bay - 10News.com KGTV ABC10 San Diego

than black males in similar or less dangerous situations:

South Carolina trooper shot unarmed man, police say - CNN.com

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The trend in this country appears to be that white males in dangerous situations are more likely to come out alive:

Armed man shot, injured by San Diego police in Mission Bay - 10News.com KGTV ABC10 San Diego

than black males in similar or less dangerous situations:

South Carolina trooper shot unarmed man, police say - CNN.com

You're still nuts if you imply that a white guy acting like Micheal Brown did would have had a better chance of surviving.

We don't know exactly how Micheal Brown acted with the cop, though it's proven he attacked the cop. Here's a pic again of how Micheal Brown was acting earlier that day, while shoplifting. After the shooting, some described him as a "gentle giant". Smh.


Oh and shame on your selective quotes above. Just like shame on the selective outrage of people above apparently only against perjury when it suits them.

Salt Lake cop cleared in shooting of unarmed white man

28-year-old man was arrested Wednesday after an hour long standoff with the Orange County Sheriff's Office, officials said. - Gunman that police didn't shoot was black, in case you wonder

Gunman executes 2 NYPD cops in Garner 'revenge'



There is a perception out there that needs addressing. And it's not just all about racism on whites part.

"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage of my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” - Jesse Jackson

So why would Jesse Jackson say that?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

People of color are not above the law. No one is saying that Brown or Garner were being saints or that they are innocent of what they were doing.

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......actually that is exactly what the black community is saying and how they are being treated (remembered) .