RG3 and Gruden?

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Originally Posted by calia

I don't think it takes 5+ years. Look at what Carroll did in Seattle in less than 5 years. Bellichick in NE in less than 5 . Harbaugh in SF in less than 5 . Those teams weren't loaded with talent before their arrival either. I think Shannahan had enough time to show improvement but the team was at its worst his final season in DC. I doubt he comes back and wins elsewhere - I think he's done.


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You are only looking at talent and think changing players will make a difference. It wont. This organization is a complete and total disaster from top to bottom and no matter who is brought in wont matter because there are no players and coaches who can be successful in this dysfunctional loser environment. It will take at least 5 years to change the culture of loser dysfunction in this organization.