The everything Gruden thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I can't remember seeing a Skins team beat themselves so badly week in and week out. We actually have a top-12 offense and defense yet we consistently lose because we consistently do stupid things: miss simple coverages, miss simple blitz pickups, make pointless personal fouls, get kicked out of games, etc.



This undiscipline is on Gruden.

You are kidding right? You cannot remember? Try last year.
I am not going to say Gruden is up for coach of the year or anything, but can we stop pretending we were on the verge of something great until Gruden came and ruined it all??

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You are kidding right? You cannot remember? Try last year.
I am not going to say Gruden is up for coach of the year or anything, but can we stop pretending we were on the verge of something great until Gruden came and ruined it all??

IMO Last year we were beaten more on the basis of talent, especially the talent of our depth. And sure, we still have some talent problems.

But this year IMO we have better talent but spend more time doing really stupid things. And we do these stupid things every single week. IMO we were stupid, but not as stupid, last year.

And even if we disagree on this, the essential point remains that we can't win until we stop being so stupid.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Lotus

IMO Last year we were beaten more on the basis of talent, especially the talent of our depth. And sure, we still have some talent problems.



But this year IMO we have better talent but spend more time doing really stupid things. And we do these stupid things every single week. IMO we were stupid, but not as stupid, last year.



And even if we disagree on this, the essential point remains that we can't win until we stop being so stupid.

Beaides DJax who is this talent we have as opposed to last year? If you dont have a QB it is hard to maximize your new talent at WR.
We are missing DHall this year. That is huge. I dont see any talent difference at all really.
I think you are greatly underestimating the stupidity and shooting of the proverbial feet this team was famous for for many years before Gruden got here. Lol.
You are correct about the fact that we have to fix stupid, and im banking on cap money, a first round pick and a new DC to help Gruden do this.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Beaides DJax who is this talent we have as opposed to last year? If you dont have a QB it is hard to maximize your new talent at WR.
We are missing DHall this year. That is huge. I dont see any talent difference at all really.
I think you are greatly underestimating the stupidity and shooting of the proverbial feet this team was famous for for many years before Gruden got here. Lol.
You are correct about the fact that we have to fix stupid, and im banking on cap money, a first round pick and a new DC to help Gruden do this.

Fine.

Still, the stupid stuff needs to stop. Joe Gibbs did not win three Super Bowls with people missing simple cover 2 assignments. Coaches of the good teams make sure that their folks don't do the stoopid crap.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Beaides DJax who is this talent we have as opposed to last year? If you dont have a QB it is hard to maximize your new talent at WR.
We are missing DHall this year. That is huge. I dont see any talent difference at all really.
I think you are greatly underestimating the stupidity and shooting of the proverbial feet this team was famous for for many years before Gruden got here. Lol.
You are correct about the fact that we have to fix stupid, and im banking on cap money, a first round pick and a new DC to help Gruden do this.

You are exactly right. Besides Djax it's largely the same players and same coaches. A one Gruden for two Shannys trade.

Who are these pro bowlers the front office brought in who everyone keeps alluding to?

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Beaides DJax who is this talent we have as opposed to last year? If you dont have a QB it is hard to maximize your new talent at WR.
We are missing DHall this year. That is huge. I dont see any talent difference at all really.
I think you are greatly underestimating the stupidity and shooting of the proverbial feet this team was famous for for many years before Gruden got here. Lol.
You are correct about the fact that we have to fix stupid, and im banking on cap money, a first round pick and a new DC to help Gruden do this.

Keim's post game observations touch on the discussion here. Especially the comparison to Arizona and the culture Jay inherited:

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