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MTK · 02-23-2004, 11:23 PM

Portis is going to be looking for a new deal though I'm pretty sure.

Scott · 02-23-2004, 11:25 PM

I am sure he will be looking for a new deal but we dont have to give him one, he has two years left, make him prove himself as a redskin then restructure next year.

skinsfan_n_vegas · 02-23-2004, 11:28 PM

Anyone think he's the type to boycott training camp if he doesn't get the new deal he may want and is traded to the Skins? Kind of a dumb question but, if I were to guess, he would work out a new deal before a trade just as the Broncos would need to work out a new deal for Champ. Any thoughts ...

joecrisp · 02-23-2004, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_n_vegas

Anyone think he's the type to boycott training camp if he doesn't get the new deal he may want and is traded to the Skins? Kind of a dumb question but, if I were to guess, he would work out a new deal before a trade just as the Broncos would need to work out a new deal for Champ. Any thoughts ...

From the sound of it, Portis and Bailey would both have new deals in place before the trade is consummated.

No new deals, no trade.

SmootSmack · 02-23-2004, 11:37 PM

My only concern with getting Portis is look at Terrell Davis, Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Quentin Griffin. Any time one of those is the primary back in Denver they do well. So is it the runner or is the system? That being said, if Portis is just 80% as good here in DC as in Denver that's still better than anything we have. And it's better than most of the league. So yeah I'd make the deal. What's DC without a Clinton?

Anyone hear the rumor that has us sending Champ to the Jets for their 1st and 2nd, then sending our 1st and their second to Denver for Portis? And what do you all think of a Champ for Shaun Alexander swap?

It's good to be back on the warpath!

joecrisp · 02-23-2004, 11:43 PM

You know, it's funny Smooty, but I read two articles over the weekend, one from Adam Schefter of the Denver Post, and the other from one of the Seattle paper, that proposed the Portis and Alexander deals, respectively. Initially, it appeared that these writers were merely suggesting the viability of these potential trades-- but lo and behold, on Monday, Portis-for-Bailey is all the rage!Apparently, the Portis-Bailey rumor swept throught Indy on Friday or Saturday, and by Monday, Gibbs was verifying the possibility of it to the media. I haven't heard any additional word on the possibility of trading for Alexander. It would be interesting to know which came first-- the rumor, or the reality?

Hail to the Redskins · 02-24-2004, 12:03 AM

Ok well someone has to be not so excited right? hahaha

I mean... I think Portis is may possibly be the best back in all of football (an EYE_POPPING 5.5 yds/carry avg. each of first 2 years... find someone who can come close to THAT)... BUT

Champ IS the best cover corner in football, and he's only 25!!

Straight up.. player for player? That is KINDA shady enough, considering the fact that Portis in the near future will be expecting money EXCEEDING Bailey's piddely (in comparison) 55 MIL deal. I personally think a cheaper, reliable back can be found in the draft or cheaper in Free Agency. I mean... runners are a product of their systems for the most part, using Denver as the perfect example (Davis, Gary, Anderson, Portis, Griffin).

A 2nd round pick too?? HELL NO. Can ANYONE say DEFENSE????

You mean to tell me we'd be down a 2nd and 3rd round pick this year AND the best player on our defense that was ranked in the 20's in most categories??? That wouldn't bother anyone?

And to say, well we'll get them through free agency is a little naive considering what we have guaranteed Brunell and would have to pay Portis to make him happy he is coming to DC.

Damn I'd love to see CP run for us... but I'd rather draft a Greg Jones, Chirs Perry or Quincy Wilson outside the 1st round, let them compete with Betts and McCullough in camp for the job and use our 2 FISRT ROUND PICKS (one from dealing Champ to the Lions for the 6th overall) on 2 young defensive STUDS... that we need so desperately! .... but that's just me... and I am certainly no expert.

By the way... welcome back WARPATH! Come checkout the new Maddenskins I have at my site... the link is down here in my signature

MTK · 02-23-2004, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by joecrisp

From the sound of it, Portis and Bailey would both have new deals in place before the trade is consummated.

No new deals, no trade.

Yeah neither guy will be going anywhere without a new deal.

skinsfan_n_vegas · 02-23-2004, 11:43 PM

I think Portis is gonna be lookin' for BIG $$$. How's that gonna work and will we be able to afford him? I guess the only way we'll know is if the deal goes down.

x44x · 02-24-2004, 12:57 AM

He doesnt want to be a skin. get rid of him.

AnonEmouse · 02-24-2004, 06:58 AM

Latest I saw is Detroit have pulled out, apparently because we insisted on their 1st and 2nd picks.

Also more are tapping Denver on the possibility of picking up Portis.

All things being equal, considering the cost (2nd round pick), I'd shy away and look at the Seattle trade, assuming it's genuine and they are still interested. Alexander would be able to grind out the tough yards and we could use Canidate/McCullough as alternates. I'd also trade Betts for picks, so we can bolster the depth.

Scott · 02-24-2004, 06:58 AM

I agree with those that say we shouldn't be sending a 2nd rounder to denver in addition to champ, but what if we sent a pick from next years draft, gives us the ability to draft now for a need and allows all of our backups to be in the gibbs system for a year to compete and learn...lets face it this day and age we are going to have atleast one hole in the team because of salary cap, but with a good coach that hole will be much less noticeable.

backrow · 02-24-2004, 07:26 AM

I say, Why hasn't this trade happened already???

Hail to the Redskins · 02-24-2004, 07:37 AM

....trading period doesn't start until March 3. That's why you haven't seen Mark Brunell hold up Hasselbeck's no. 8 jersey yet.

02-24-2004, 12:03 AM	#7
Hail to the Redskins The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,687	Ok well someone has to be not so excited right? hahaha I mean... I think Portis is may possibly be the best back in all of football (an EYE_POPPING 5.5 yds/carry avg. each of first 2 years... find someone who can come close to THAT)... BUT Champ IS the best cover corner in football, and he's only 25!! Straight up.. player for player? That is KINDA shady enough, considering the fact that Portis in the near future will be expecting money EXCEEDING Bailey's piddely (in comparison) 55 MIL deal. I personally think a cheaper, reliable back can be found in the draft or cheaper in Free Agency. I mean... runners are a product of their systems for the most part, using Denver as the perfect example (Davis, Gary, Anderson, Portis, Griffin). A 2nd round pick too?? HELL NO. Can ANYONE say DEFENSE???? You mean to tell me we'd be down a 2nd and 3rd round pick this year AND the best player on our defense that was ranked in the 20's in most categories??? That wouldn't bother anyone? And to say, well we'll get them through free agency is a little naive considering what we have guaranteed Brunell and would have to pay Portis to make him happy he is coming to DC. Damn I'd love to see CP run for us... but I'd rather draft a Greg Jones, Chirs Perry or Quincy Wilson outside the 1st round, let them compete with Betts and McCullough in camp for the job and use our 2 FISRT ROUND PICKS (one from dealing Champ to the Lions for the 6th overall) on 2 young defensive STUDS... that we need so desperately! .... but that's just me... and I am certainly no expert. By the way... welcome back WARPATH! Come checkout the new Maddenskins I have at my site... the link is down here in my signature __________________ “Sometimes it is not enough to our best; we must do what is required.” - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

02-24-2004, 12:57 AM	#10
x44x Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk Virginia Age: 51 Posts: 211	please send bailey away. He doesnt want to be a skin. get rid of him.

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backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 74 Posts: 1,812	What??? I say, Why hasn't this trade happened already??? __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

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Hail to the Redskins The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,687	....trading period doesn't start until March 3. That's why you haven't seen Mark Brunell hold up Hasselbeck's no. 8 jersey yet. __________________ “Sometimes it is not enough to our best; we must do what is required.” - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

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02-23-2004, 11:23 PM	#1
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Portis is going to be looking for a new deal though I'm pretty sure.

02-23-2004, 11:25 PM	#2
Scott Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 177	I am sure he will be looking for a new deal but we dont have to give him one, he has two years left, make him prove himself as a redskin then restructure next year.

02-23-2004, 11:28 PM	#3
skinsfan_n_vegas Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 6	Anyone think he's the type to boycott training camp if he doesn't get the new deal he may want and is traded to the Skins? Kind of a dumb question but, if I were to guess, he would work out a new deal before a trade just as the Broncos would need to work out a new deal for Champ. Any thoughts ...

02-23-2004, 11:37 PM	#5
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	My only concern with getting Portis is look at Terrell Davis, Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Quentin Griffin. Any time one of those is the primary back in Denver they do well. So is it the runner or is the system? That being said, if Portis is just 80% as good here in DC as in Denver that's still better than anything we have. And it's better than most of the league. So yeah I'd make the deal. What's DC without a Clinton? Anyone hear the rumor that has us sending Champ to the Jets for their 1st and 2nd, then sending our 1st and their second to Denver for Portis? And what do you all think of a Champ for Shaun Alexander swap? It's good to be back on the warpath!

02-23-2004, 11:43 PM	#6
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 50 Posts: 1,501	You know, it's funny Smooty, but I read two articles over the weekend, one from Adam Schefter of the Denver Post, and the other from one of the Seattle paper, that proposed the Portis and Alexander deals, respectively. Initially, it appeared that these writers were merely suggesting the viability of these potential trades-- but lo and behold, on Monday, Portis-for-Bailey is all the rage!Apparently, the Portis-Bailey rumor swept throught Indy on Friday or Saturday, and by Monday, Gibbs was verifying the possibility of it to the media. I haven't heard any additional word on the possibility of trading for Alexander. It would be interesting to know which came first-- the rumor, or the reality?

02-24-2004, 06:58 AM	#11
AnonEmouse Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 60 Posts: 2,895	Latest I saw is Detroit have pulled out, apparently because we insisted on their 1st and 2nd picks. Also more are tapping Denver on the possibility of picking up Portis. All things being equal, considering the cost (2nd round pick), I'd shy away and look at the Seattle trade, assuming it's genuine and they are still interested. Alexander would be able to grind out the tough yards and we could use Canidate/McCullough as alternates. I'd also trade Betts for picks, so we can bolster the depth.

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