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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
Every spot other than LT should be listed as open for competition.
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Playmaker
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Washington, D.C.
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
Are you serious? Nobody on that offensive line would be starting for another team except for Trent Williams.....if Spencer Long has been sitting then it's for a good reason.....he and Moses are developmental prospects.....the Redskins need a big offensive line......maybe they can sign Incognito in free agency and trade back in the first round and pick a few guards in the early rounds of the draft.....then with our own second round pick draft a safety....
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Living Legend
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
Since we have QBs that are developing in our roster (Cousins/RG3) or may have a rookie QB next year, we have to improve our line through free agency and the draft.
People forget that a good line can help overcome an average QB (Sanchez with the Jets) or help a young QB develop without asking him to do much (Wilson's first two years in Seattle). I think all of our QBs have lost faith in the offensive line and are playing scare. It happened to RG3 last season, it happened to Cousins a few games into this season, and I'm sure it has happened to McCoy after he got his neck messed up. This doesn't mean that the fault likes solely within the line, but I just see this mistrust in the line by all of our QBs.
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Camp Scrub
Join Date: Dec 2014
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
fix it how tho through free agency or the draft?
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
Both. You can't just depend on free agency or the draft. Although, we need better talent evaluators since we've missed on a number of o-line players in the draft.
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Join Date: Dec 2014
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Playmaker
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Washington, D.C.
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
More so the draft...if there's an offensive linemen who is still young and has had pro bowl accolades and becomes a free agent then you pursue him in FA.....but drafting an offensive linemen or any player for that matter takes careful planning and consideration.....
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Special Teams
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
Seems like a pretty good analysis of the problems with the O-Line
Breaking Down Washington Redskins' Protection Issues | Bleacher Report |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
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The Starter
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pacifica, CA
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
Just a note about patience developing OL, remember Chad Rinehardt? He's been solid for the Chargers.
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The Starter
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Virginia
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
Let me preface my post by saying I do believe we need to improve the line. A Iupati prototype as the model to follow.
That being said, upgrading the defensive line would have the most immediate, dramatic impact on both sides of the ball. Being able to get pressure on the opposing QB with 4 rushers is one of the biggest factors in the game of football at any level. Pressure with 4 limits the time the QB has to make decisions and can mask weaknesses in our secondary. Pressure from the the D line can make good corners (Richard Sherman) appear better than they are because those quick decisions are being thrown into coverages that are full strength. Getting pressure with four would ease up the pressure on Hall, Breeland, and Amerson and we wouldn't have to bring an all pro caliber safety to fix our deep secondary. Breeland might be a pro bowler this year if we had a pass rush. Having a killer D line would also impact the offense significantly. The single biggest impact should be keeping the opposing defense off balance. Playing a close game or playing ahead late in the 3rd quarter and 4th quarter is totally different than playing from behind. If you want to help the offensive line, don't put them in positions where the defense can pin their ears back and play one dimensionally. We have been playing from behind almost every game. When the defense has to play run and pass our o line has an advantage. An improved defensive line should improve our time of possession which makes a huge difference in the pass rush in the 4th quarter. (An improvement in the O line should do the same.) We are currently running a west coast style offense with a lot of short passing. In theory, this shouldn't require 6 second protections. Both need to be improved. A huge upgrade on the defensive side would have the most dramatic, immediate impact though. |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Parkton, MD
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
I agree that D-line is more important. Our o-line while not very good a bottom third imo a solid d-line can have a more significant improvement on our offense than an improved o-line has on the d. I am frustrated because I feel like we have invested heavily on the d line side but have not seen results. Some of that is injuries, some coaching, but perhaps we have the wrong pieces to the puzzle.
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Dublin, Ohio
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
Fixing the offensive line would have one very, very important benefit --- significantly reducing the chance your quarterback gets killed on any given Sunday. Ask Colt McCoy about how important offensive line protection is. The idea of having a $10.000,000 QB playing behind a 50 cent offensive line is rather silly.
It may be true that there is more impact with a better D Line. But you just cant have your QB at risk of getting killed every week. |
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Another Year, another mess.
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Fix the Line Thread
Two names, Iupati and Suh. It would be crazy if that happened but they would solve a lot of issues.
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