RG3 and Gruden?

[KI Skins Fan]

Trading RGIII is not the answer to the Skins offensive problems. Continuing to work with him to help him get better and putting better players around him might be the answer.

1. Hire a QB coach.

2. Get in FA or trade for:

- A RB who is already a good pass protector. He doesn't need to be a star. We just need to make sure we have someone who can do this well.

- A big TE who is known to be a very good blocker.

- One starter quality OG.

3. Draft the best OT in the entire draft in Round 1.

4. Jay Gruden needs to spend time with Robert one-on-one in a relaxed environment studying film together and getting to know one another better. They need to do a vulcan mind meld so that Robert knows the offense and Jay's offensive philosophy so well that the HC is practically on the field with him. I see no reason why they shouldn't do this. I hear that they practically live across the street from one another. They could do it at one of their homes while their families visit.

I'm sure there are more things that could be done for Robert and the other QB's, but I think the things I listed would be a good start.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Trading RGIII is not the answer to the Skins offensive problems. Continuing to work with him to help him get better and putting better players around him might be the answer.

1. Hire a QB coach.

2. Get in FA or trade for:

- A RB who is already a good pass protector. He doesn't need to be a star. We just need to make sure we have someone who can do this well.

- A big TE who is known to be a very good blocker.

- One starter quality OG.

3. Draft the best OT in the entire draft in Round 1.

4. Jay Gruden needs to spend time with Robert one-on-one in a relaxed environment studying film together and getting to know one another better. They need to do a vulcan mind meld so that Robert knows the offense and Jay's offensive philosophy so well that the HC is practically on the field with him. I see no reason why they shouldn't do this. I hear that they practically live across the street from one another. They could do it at one of their homes while their families visit.

I'm sure there are more things that could be done for Robert and the other QB's, but I think the things I listed would be a good start.

The new CBA rules don't allow for the player and coach to spen time with each other talking football, practicing, watching film and playbook study until April or something like that.... its BS

I agree with your assessments though.

Bill Polian said to put QB on a card and put that card into a drawer and forget about it. He says QB is the least of our issues, the "atrocious" defense and Oline need to be fixed before we can even evaluate the play of the QB. I completely agree with him.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

The new CBA rules don't allow for the player and coach to spen time with each other talking football, practicing, watching film and playbook study until April or something like that.... its BS

I agree with your assessments though.

Bill Polian said to put QB on a card and put that card into a drawer and forget about it. He says QB is the least of our issues, the "atrocious" defense and Oline need to be fixed before we can even evaluate the play of the QB. I completely agree with him.

It's nice to know that we're thinking like Bill Polian on this issue, isn't it? Now, if if Dan Snyder would just hire Bill Polian to build our team I'd feel better about the future.

My problem with Jay Gruden regarding RGIII is that I suspect that Gruden is looking for an easy way out of his responsibility to develop RGIII. The reason I have a problem with that is because I think I see something extraordinary in RGIII that can to be brought out of him. I just can't stand the idea that Robert could develop into a true franchise QB somewhere else.

Again, I think it needs to be made abundantly clear to Jay Gruden by higher management that both he and RGIII will be with the team next season and that Gruden is still expected to mould RGIII into a good starting QB. He needs to be told that nothing has changed from when he first took the job in respect to his responsibility for RGIII's development.

If Jay doesn't like that then Dan Snyder should just tell Jay that it's tough shit for him that the job of developing RGIII is harder than it may have looked to him from the outside. After all, that's why Jay is getting paid the big bucks.

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

It's nice to know that we're thinking like Bill Polian on this issue, isn't it? Now, if if Dan Snyder would just hire Bill Polian to build our team I'd feel better about the future.

My problem with Jay Gruden regarding RGIII is that I suspect that Gruden is looking for an easy way out of his responsibility to develop RGIII. The reason I have a problem with that is because I think I see something extraordinary in RGIII that can to be brought out of him. I just can't stand the idea that Robert could develop into a true franchise QB somewhere else.

Again, I think it needs to be made abundantly clear to Jay Gruden by higher management that both he and RGIII will be with the team next season and that Gruden is still expected to mould RGIII into a good starting QB. He needs to be told that nothing has changed from when he first took the job in respect to his responsibility for RGIII's development.

If Jay doesn't like that then Dan Snyder should just tell Jay that it's tough shit for him that the job of developing RGIII is harder than it may have looked to him from the outside. After all, that's why Jay is getting paid the big bucks.

Totes agree with this. It's not the best case scenario, that would be hiring a quality pro HC. But if Snyder has committed to Gruden into next year, I hope Snyder/FO forced him to at least try doing his job.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

It's nice to know that we're thinking like Bill Polian on this issue, isn't it? Now, if if Dan Snyder would just hire Bill Polian to build our team I'd feel better about the future.

My problem with Jay Gruden regarding RGIII is that I suspect that Gruden is looking for an easy way out of his responsibility to develop RGIII. The reason I have a problem with that is because I think I see something extraordinary in RGIII that can to be brought out of him. I just can't stand the idea that Robert could develop into a true franchise QB somewhere else.

Again, I think it needs to be made abundantly clear to Jay Gruden by higher management that both he and RGIII will be with the team next season and that Gruden is still expected to mould RGIII into a good starting QB. He needs to be told that nothing has changed from when he first took the job in respect to his responsibility for RGIII's development.

If Jay doesn't like that then Dan Snyder should just tell Jay that it's tough shit for him that the job of developing RGIII is harder than it may have looked to him from the outside. After all, that's why Jay is getting paid the big bucks.

I wonder what the conversation during the interview between the FO and Gruden was like. I feel like there is a disconnect between the expectations and I would like to know where that disconnect lies. I have a hard time believing the FO wouldn't ask Gruden what his expectations for the offense are and how he plans to implement them. The product on the field suggests one of the two parties was not clear with the other.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

The new CBA rules don't allow for the player and coach to spen time with each other talking football, practicing, watching film and playbook study until April or something like that.... its BS

I agree with your assessments though.

Bill Polian said to put QB on a card and put that card into a drawer and forget about it. He says QB is the least of our issues, the "atrocious" defense and Oline need to be fixed before we can even evaluate the play of the QB. I completely agree with him.

I would agree with Polian as well. Maybe Snyder can lure him out of the booth and hire him as a consultant. Snyder loved to hire consultants back in the day. lol.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would agree with Polian as well. Maybe Snyder can lure him out of the booth and hire him as a consultant. Snyder loved to hire consultants back in the day. lol.

Good idea! Polian could call offensive plays from the booth for the Maroon and Yellow, as well.

[SFREDSKIN]

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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Trading RGIII is not the answer to the Skins offensive problems. Continuing to work with him to help him get better and putting better players around him might be the answer.

1. Hire a QB coach.

2. Get in FA or trade for:

- A RB who is already a good pass protector. He doesn't need to be a star. We just need to make sure we have someone who can do this well.

- A big TE who is known to be a very good blocker.

- One starter quality OG.

3. Draft the best OT in the entire draft in Round 1.

4. Jay Gruden needs to spend time with Robert one-on-one in a relaxed environment studying film together and getting to know one another better. They need to do a vulcan mind meld so that Robert knows the offense and Jay's offensive philosophy so well that the HC is practically on the field with him. I see no reason why they shouldn't do this. I hear that they practically live across the street from one another. They could do it at one of their homes while their families visit.

I'm sure there are more things that could be done for Robert and the other QB's, but I think the things I listed would be a good start.

This would be "coddling" RG3 even more. Why would he get special treatment over the other QB's? Even if Gruden did this, the other QB's would have to be involved in this "one on one" time.