All things off season 2015.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I said losing and coaching carousel, today's player wants to win like LeBron. I miss the days of Walter Payton playing for a shitty bears team and becoming a powerhouse.

Well losing ST probably lost us Gibbs which I think restarted the carousel. It was a dark day in Skins history.

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[Meks]

^ your always quite the know it all NC, you know Gibbs coached with his heart. Not only to lose a friend, someone you coached and mentored and then to lose in the fashion they did in Seattle in the playoffs? It probably exhausted the man. Don't insult Gibbs, nor the effect of losing what he treated his players like, FAMILY. Its insulting to insinuate that you know what happened, when chances are it DID play a huge roll in what happened. Please, show more respect dude

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Meks

^ your always quite the know it all NC, you know Gibbs coached with his heart. Not only to lose a friend, someone you coached and mentored and then to lose in the fashion they did in Seattle in the playoffs? It probably exhausted the man. Don't insult Gibbs, nor the effect of losing what he treated his players like, FAMILY. Its insulting to insinuate that you know what happened, when chances are it DID play a huge roll in what happened. Please, show more respect dude

I didn't say it was a fact. It's my opinion on the matter. I know Gibbs was loved by his players and he had a big heart, while having a connection with them. I've never denied that. What I said wasn't an insult to Gibbs. He's one of the top coaches of all time (if not the best). I never said Gibbs was wrong for walking away either, just noted it wasn't some noble reasoning (like ST/family/etc). When I state something is fact, I'll note is as much. You guys get too butthurt over criticism of your favorite legends. Again, this is merely my opinion on the matter. Stop treating it as if I said this was the exact case.

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I would put this at about 100% wrong, Gibbs team went 6-2 under Zorn, and that was without Gibbs input on the draft/FA. He could have made the team younger and made a more complete team.

I said Gibbs knew the team was old and had no depth. Guess what? That downfall after the 6-2 run was due to injuries. They had no depth, and the team was one of the oldest in the league. Gibbs had to know it would require a lot of luck to win with that team.

I didn't say it was noble or a higher calling, not even sure what that means. He simply was exhausted from the emotional toll of a football season, and ST's death was the tipping point. (all that is my humble opinion of course)

I know you didn't say it, I said it. I think people paint whatever picture they want instead of looking at the whole picture. I may be way off base. /shrug


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I'M SORRY CR & MEKS.I WAS WRONG.

[calia]

Totally agree. No question losing ST hit Gibbs hard.


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[CRedskinsRule]

On a different note Walters Football graded last year's draft rumors from national media figures:

I took a glance back and counted how many "wins" and "losses" each reporter had. I didn't look at whom they slotted in their mock drafts - the Wall Street Journal did a good job of that - but rather, my task was delving into reports that said "Team X really likes Player A," or "Team Y plans to trade up."

National Media (2014):

Tony Pauline: 4-3
Bob Holtzman: 2-0
Adam Caplan: 2-1
Chris Mortensen: 2-2
Peter King: 5-6
Charlie Campbell: 2-3
Tom Curran: 1-0
Jeremy Fowler: 1-0
Pete Schrager: 1-1
Jay Glazer: 1-1
Dane Brugler: 1-1
Todd McShay: 1-1
Daniel Jeremiah: 1-2
Ian Rapoport: 2-5
Adam Schefter: 1-3
Jason La Canfora: 0-1
Charley Casserly: 0-1
Ashley Fox: 0-1
Gil Brandt: 0-1
Charles Robinson: 0-1
Field Yates: 0-1
Shawn Zobel: 0-1
Mel Kiper: 0-2
Ed Werder: 0-2
Russ Lande: 0-2
Matt Miller: 0-2
Pro Football Talk: 0-3
Read more at 2014 NFL Draft Rumors Results - WalterFootball.com

Does it shock you PFT was 0-3?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Does it shock you PFT was 0-3?

No. It shocks me that Jason La Canfora has a job.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

No. It shocks me that Jason La Canfora has a job.

Yeah me too.

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[53Fan]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

No. It shocks me that Jason La Canfora has a job.

Lmao!

[JoeRedskin]

^^ Just as an aside - Google and the internet. Amazing! Took me all of two minutes to find articles from seven years ago. Took me longer to format the answer than to do the research.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

^^ Just as an aside - Google and the internet. Amazing! Took me all of two minutes to find articles from seven years ago. Took me longer to format the answer than to do the research.

Who said lawyers were useless? I kid..I kid...

Also, only if you actually believe what's said in them.


Lastly, I know what was said back then, I just don't buy it.


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IT'S DRAFT DAY GUYS!!!

[53Fan]

Great job JoeRedskin. Great job.

[Ruhskins]

Hey JoeRedskins, I thought about you when I was listening to Andrew Brandt on the Ross Tucker Podcast, and he gave a perfect example of a going BPA scenario in the draft. Back when he was with the Packers, Brandt recalled their decision to draft Aaron Rodgers. They had Favre at QB, which at that point was not having any issues and QB wasn't really a need.

By the time they got to their pick, Rodgers was their highest rated player and the only player with a first round grade left on their board. So without needing a QB, they rolled the dice, went BPA, and the rest is history. I think this is an excellent example of going BPA in the first round.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Hey JoeRedskins, I thought about you when I was listening to Andrew Brandt on the Ross Tucker Podcast, and he gave a perfect example of a going BPA scenario in the draft. Back when he was with the Packers, Brandt recalled their decision to draft Aaron Rodgers. They had Favre at QB, which at that point was not having any issues and QB wasn't really a need.



By the time they got to their pick, Rodgers was their highest rated player and the only player with a first round grade left on their board. So without needing a QB, they rolled the dice, went BPA, and the rest is history. I think this is an excellent example of going BPA in the first round.

I didnt know that. I always thought the plan was to grab him and bring him up slowly under Favre. Intetesting. However it is not only an excellent example but Also a miraculous example. There are Im sure a ton of examples for the other side. I dont think you can ever really go 100% BPA or Fill a need in your head while drafting players. If you do you are simply not doing your due diligence with every pick. Gotta weigh every option imo.

[Meks]

Lol, no hard feelings bro, but yes I do take my favorite legends pretty seriously and its somethin I, obviously, can quickly get fired up about I guess, meant no disrespect, your entitles to your opinion @nc_skins

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Meks

Lol, no hard feelings bro, but yes I do take my favorite legends pretty seriously and its somethin I, obviously, can quickly get fired up about I guess, meant no disrespect, your entitles to your opinion @nc_skins

None taken good sir.