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Old 09-27-2005, 04:33 PM   #1
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Re: Jets In The Market For Qb! (MEGA MERGE)

simms and orton aren't exactly high priced... and neither griese or grossman have the type of deals brees or rivers have i don't believe.
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Old 09-27-2005, 05:23 PM   #2
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It's kind of ironic that all of a sudden a QB who hold's the ball to long, throws to many INT's, has glue on the bottom of his cleets, can't beat out a QB who has 2 100 yd passing games in his last seven games, is now a capable backup, you mean to tell me a top flight rookie like Campbell can't back up a QB of Brunell's capabilities? We all know Gibbs really likes Bryson Spinner, he has spoke very well of him in the pre-season, it's funny how valuable Ramsey is all of a sudden, I really don't understand why? Didn't any of you see that Giant game last year he threw 3 INT's, we can't afford to keep a player around who did something like that, why wouldn't we want to get whatever we can for him? 2,3,4, whatever, it's better than nothing, it's not like his value is going to go up sitting on the bench, it wont be higher in the off season, if theres any chance of getting any value for Ramsey it's right now, the Jets are desperate, it's not like Gibbs will overestimate his talent, unless you want to look at Rod Gardner as an example, but I think that should be thrown out as just one of those things and shouldn't really count now.

I don't understand the reasoning? Gibbs wont let the guy sniff the field because he stinks, yet he wont trade him because he doesn't stink, I would think it would be addition by subtraction, we would be better without him, and the Jet's would be worse with him.

What is the fascination with Ramsey, didn't anyone watch him play for 19 minutes against the Bears, that's all we needed to see to know this guy doesn't belong in the NFL!
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Old 09-27-2005, 07:42 PM   #3
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Offiss,

I know you support Joe Gibbs and his decision to start Brunell over Ramsey and I don't mean to get into that debate. But, if you trust Gibbs, what do you have say about Gibbss apparent unwillingness to even entertain a trade with the Jets for Ramsey?

If Campbell is such a quality backup quarterback, why wouldn't Gibbs love to trade Ramsey? Do you now doubt Gibbs?
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Old 09-27-2005, 07:45 PM   #4
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Offiss,

I know you support Joe Gibbs and his decision to start Brunell over Ramsey and I don't mean to get into that debate. But, if you trust Gibbs, what do you have say about Gibbss apparent unwillingness to even entertain a trade with the Jets for Ramsey?

If Campbell is such a quality backup quarterback, why wouldn't Gibbs love to trade Ramsey? Do you now doubt Gibbs?

Did Gibbs or the Skins FO say they would not even hear an offer from the Jets?
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Old 09-27-2005, 09:06 PM   #5
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Offiss,

I know you support Joe Gibbs and his decision to start Brunell over Ramsey and I don't mean to get into that debate. But, if you trust Gibbs, what do you have say about Gibbss apparent unwillingness to even entertain a trade with the Jets for Ramsey?

If Campbell is such a quality backup quarterback, why wouldn't Gibbs love to trade Ramsey? Do you now doubt Gibbs?
i thought offiss was being sarcastic...
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But, if you trust Gibbs, what do you have say about Gibbss apparent unwillingness to even entertain a trade with the Jets for Ramsey?

If Campbell is such a quality backup quarterback, why wouldn't Gibbs love to trade Ramsey? Do you now doubt Gibbs?

LOL...Ramseyfan, judging by Offiss' other posts, I think he might have been a little facetious when he had posted his last statement.
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Offiss,

I know you support Joe Gibbs and his decision to start Brunell over Ramsey and I don't mean to get into that debate. But, if you trust Gibbs, what do you have say about Gibbss apparent unwillingness to even entertain a trade with the Jets for Ramsey?

If Campbell is such a quality backup quarterback, why wouldn't Gibbs love to trade Ramsey? Do you now doubt Gibbs?

Blasphemour! How can you in good conscience doubt a man with 3 rings? Gibbs is as perfect today as he was 12 years ago, don't try to tell me that he's lost a little off the fast ball just because he was away from the game for 12 years the man is a genious.

Why wont he trade Ramsey you ask? It is not for us to reason why when it comes to Gibbs, only that the reason is unbenounced to us, our finite minds weren't designed to understand a Gibbs offense, or his talent evaluation methods, I find it imbisilic in nature to even attempt such thought, Gibbs plan will be revealed when the time is right, only then when he feels we are prepared to digest all his offensive game planning will he allow us understanding.

As for Campbell we only gave up next years draft for this kid, it's not like we are mortgaging the future on a project, now if we gave up let's say all our draft picks over the coarse of the next 3 years I may be inclined to agree with you, but that's just not the case, giving up next years draft for a projected second rd. talent is sheer genious if the kid gets on the field by 2007, again another brillant move on Gibbs part.

So in part Ramseyfan let me say this, until you are prepared to be a TRUE fan of my team, and support Gibbs in every decision, and stop being a fan of Ramsey, and start being a redskin fan, I am banning you from further banter with myself, I find it childish, and beneath me at best! :cheeky-sm

Gibbsfan, now a little subtle change in your screen name can go a long way in helping you understand the way's of GIBBS, remember admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery, try not to be to hard on yourself none of us are NFL coaches, and none of us have SB rings, we can't be expected to know anything about football, so just relax and roll with it baby! I am!
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It's kind of ironic that all of a sudden a QB who hold's the ball to long, throws to many INT's, has glue on the bottom of his cleets, can't beat out a QB who has 2 100 yd passing games in his last seven games, is now a capable backup, you mean to tell me a top flight rookie like Campbell can't back up a QB of Brunell's capabilities? We all know Gibbs really likes Bryson Spinner, he has spoke very well of him in the pre-season, it's funny how valuable Ramsey is all of a sudden, I really don't understand why? Didn't any of you see that Giant game last year he threw 3 INT's, we can't afford to keep a player around who did something like that, why wouldn't we want to get whatever we can for him? 2,3,4, whatever, it's better than nothing, it's not like his value is going to go up sitting on the bench, it wont be higher in the off season, if theres any chance of getting any value for Ramsey it's right now, the Jets are desperate, it's not like Gibbs will overestimate his talent, unless you want to look at Rod Gardner as an example, but I think that should be thrown out as just one of those things and shouldn't really count now.

I don't understand the reasoning? Gibbs wont let the guy sniff the field because he stinks, yet he wont trade him because he doesn't stink, I would think it would be addition by subtraction, we would be better without him, and the Jet's would be worse with him.

What is the fascination with Ramsey, didn't anyone watch him play for 19 minutes against the Bears, that's all we needed to see to know this guy doesn't belong in the NFL!

If Brunnel hurt Ramsey next best qb.
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