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Old 01-02-2015, 05:25 PM   #1
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Re: Vic Fangio and other to be interviewed for Defense.

The Redskins have no shot of landing Fangio unless the 49ers new coach fires him and brings in his own assistant coaches.
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I just don't see the fascination with Wade Phillips. I want a young aggresive DC like Bowles, which is what Ken Norton Jr. Brings. Phillips just doesn't show any emotion like Haslett. We need someone to get in the face of a player when they fuck up.
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I just don't see the fascination with Wade Phillips. I want a young aggresive DC like Bowles, which is what Ken Norton Jr. Brings. Phillips just doesn't show any emotion like Haslett. We need someone to get in the face of a player when they fuck up.
Difference is Wade Phillips has a MUCH better track record as a DC than Hazboro did.
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Old 01-02-2015, 09:49 PM   #4
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Difference is Wade Phillips has a MUCH better track record as a DC than Hazboro did.
Wade Phillips Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Over his career, Phillips has delivered 7 defenses ranked in the top 5 in points allowed for 5 different teams. He didn't get a lot of help on some of those teams from the offense.

If anybody has a better track record on the defensive side of the ball we should hire them.

He has the exact opposite track record of Haslett. He has consistently been not only in the top half of the league, but in the top 10.

I like the idea of a young hire also, but Phillips is top notch.
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And there is this, which I totally agree with (having seen it over and over). Short term, yes. Long term, no.

Houston Texans Defense Will Collapse in Year Two Under Wade Phillips | Bleacher Report
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And there is this, which I totally agree with (having seen it over and over). Short term, yes. Long term, no.

Houston Texans Defense Will Collapse in Year Two Under Wade Phillips | Bleacher Report
Talk about cherry picking statistics. That guy's story is so misleading. In every single example he cited he didn't give any numbers from the next couple of years with the same teams.

The 3rd year in Philly, his defense was back up to 14th.

He followed up the bad year in Denver with having the 3rd ranked D in 91.

After the bad year in Buff, he lead the 2nd ranked D in the league in 99.

San Diego, he was back to 7th after the bad year there.

There are going to be good years and bad years because of injury, personnel changes and the dependency on the offense to not leave you on the field for 3/4 of the game. His last year in Houston, his defense, as bad as it was still had a better ranking than their terrible offense.

Bleacher report analysis isn't the best out there but the author did point out how defensive rankings were like a roller coaster with huge swings up and down. At least the author of that article doesn't split his time covering English Premier League Soccer.

Phillips has averaged ranking 14.5 in points allowed over his career. He is averaging being in the top half of the league.

He hasn't squeaked into the top half either.

Top 10 defense 10 times.

Top 5 defense 5 times.

I don't believe anybody thinks Phillips is the answer for the next decade. We aren't the Steelers.

He is a good defensive coordinator who would help us in the short term if we can't find the next big thing.
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The problem with Phillips is that he is a nice guy, players take advantage of his good nature. We need someone that won't let the insane run the asylum, that's what worries me. The culture in the locker room needs to change, players need to be held accountable with no free rides.
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I just don't see the fascination with Wade Phillips. I want a young aggresive DC like Bowles, which is what Ken Norton Jr. Brings. Phillips just doesn't show any emotion like Haslett. We need someone to get in the face of a player when they fuck up.
Phillips gets his players to play for him, so that they don't F up. And gives them donuts when they succeed (j/k)

Phillips has been DC 7 times, from that his units performed to where he was either interim HC or given a HC job 6 times. I don't know what exactly that means, I take it that he is not a great HC, but knows how to work in a team environment and get his defenses to perform. His average stint at any job is about 3 years. In my opinion that would be a good thing, if he came in got the D going.

That said if we brought in a young aggressive guy that might be good too. I just want a competent D Coordinator, don't really care which style he has.
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