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Old 01-05-2015, 06:36 PM   #1
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I wasn't aware he was a Cowboys fan until yesterday... didn't think it was possible to have any more disgust for the guy but he pulled it off.

Will Chris Christie Regret His Cowboy Hug? - The Daily Beast
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I wasn't aware he was a Cowboys fan until yesterday... didn't think it was possible to have any more disgust for the guy but he pulled it off.

Will Chris Christie Regret His Cowboy Hug? - The Daily Beast
Chris Christie part of Dallas Cowboys' 'mojo,' Jerry Jones says - ESPN Dallas

According to the International Business Times, Christie might have violated state ethics rules in accepting a plane ride and tickets from Jones to the game. Public officials have a "zero tolerance policy for acceptance of gifts," from people who have business with the politician. Christie barred New Jersey officials from receiving tickets to event at state-owned venues leading up to last year's Super Bowl at MetLife Stadium.

Christie spokesman Kevin Roberts told NJ.com that Jones picked up the tab for Christie and the governor's family, citing The Code of Conduct for the Governor in which the governor, "may accept gifts, favors, services, gratuities, meals, lodging or travel expenses from relatives or personal friends that are paid for with personal funds."

What a freakin hypocrite. damn
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Chris Christie part of Dallas Cowboys' 'mojo,' Jerry Jones says - ESPN Dallas

According to the International Business Times, Christie might have violated state ethics rules in accepting a plane ride and tickets from Jones to the game. Public officials have a "zero tolerance policy for acceptance of gifts," from people who have business with the politician. Christie barred New Jersey officials from receiving tickets to event at state-owned venues leading up to last year's Super Bowl at MetLife Stadium.

Christie spokesman Kevin Roberts told NJ.com that Jones picked up the tab for Christie and the governor's family, citing The Code of Conduct for the Governor in which the governor, "may accept gifts, favors, services, gratuities, meals, lodging or travel expenses from relatives or personal friends that are paid for with personal funds."

What a freakin hypocrite. damn
Hypocrite? I wonder whether it would be considered a crime; that code of conduct quote sounds dubious to me. Ask Bob McDonnell about that.
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Hypocrite? I wonder whether it would be considered a crime; that code of conduct quote sounds dubious to me. Ask Bob McDonnell about that.
Does the State of New Jersey or Christie himself have some sort of business relationship with Jerry Jones? Bob McDonnell was accused of taking "gifts" from people that were looking to do business with the state of Va. At that point, it goes from being a gift to being a bribe.

Its not a conflict of interest if no business dealings are present or none appear in the future while he is still in office.
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Does the State of New Jersey or Christie himself have some sort of business relationship with Jerry Jones? Bob McDonnell was accused of taking "gifts" from people that were looking to do business with the state of Va. At that point, it goes from being a gift to being a bribe.

Its not a conflict of interest if no business dealings are present or none appear in the future while he is still in office.
To quote the article that Matty posted: "The problem for Christie comes from Jones’ business relationship with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which is controlled by Christie and New York governor Andrew Cuomo. Jones partially owns Legends Hospitality, which will operate the soon-to-be-opened observatory at the new One World Trade Center. It’s a deal that is expected to generate $875 million in revenue over 15 years.

Obviously, the appropriate people are denying that Christie had any influence over the situation. Regardless of any actual impropriety, there’s a clear appearance of potential impropriety."

So, yes, I think there is the potential that this crossed the line. And separately of whether there was an ethical violation or an actual crime, politicians accepting lavish gifts (and so publicly flaunting them no less) is just bad -- it undermines whatever confidence peopkle have in their public servants. Anyone with integrity -- much less someone hoping to be President someday -- ought to know better and err on the side of caution. I like that Christie is so plain spoken -- more politicians ought to be. But he's also an arrogant jerk, and his Cowboy fandom.

Separately, I just got an ESPN notifier that Scott M. is oiur new GM!!
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To quote the article that Matty posted: "The problem for Christie comes from Jones’ business relationship with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which is controlled by Christie and New York governor Andrew Cuomo. Jones partially owns Legends Hospitality, which will operate the soon-to-be-opened observatory at the new One World Trade Center. It’s a deal that is expected to generate $875 million in revenue over 15 years.

Obviously, the appropriate people are denying that Christie had any influence over the situation. Regardless of any actual impropriety, there’s a clear appearance of potential impropriety."

So, yes, I think there is the potential that this crossed the line. And separately of whether there was an ethical violation or an actual crime, politicians accepting lavish gifts (and so publicly flaunting them no less) is just bad -- it undermines whatever confidence peopkle have in their public servants. Anyone with integrity -- much less someone hoping to be President someday -- ought to know better and err on the side of caution. I like that Christie is so plain spoken -- more politicians ought to be. But he's also an arrogant jerk, and his Cowboy fandom.

Separately, I just got an ESPN notifier that Scott M. is oiur new GM!!
If thats true about Jerry's dealing with the Port Authority, then I agree, thats starting to look less like a gift and more like a bribe (or reward after the fact which can still be construed as a bribe imo). I really have no problem with him being in Jerry's box, but when Jerry is picking up the tab for travel and all that stuff, that definitely looks bad. Christie should have paid for everything himself to avoid the whole gift/bribe thing since Jerry has dealings with at least some factions of the NJ Govt.
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I wasn't aware he was a Cowboys fan until yesterday... didn't think it was possible to have any more disgust for the guy but he pulled it off.

Will Chris Christie Regret His Cowboy Hug? - The Daily Beast
I couldn't agree more. Makes my stomach turn: "He's part of our mojo," Jones said Tuesday on 105.3 The Fan in Dallas. "I want him there all the way. I'll tell you, if he's got enough mojo to pull this thing out, he ought to be looked at as president of the United States."

Hopefully, that "mojo" (both for the Cowpukes and Christie) gets the life stomped out of it on the frozen tundra in Lambeau this weekend. Please, oh please Packers -- run up a score.
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