2015 Draft Prospects... First Edition

[KI Skins Fan]

I can hardly believe that the RGIII saga has come to this. In his first year, his play rejuvenated the franchise and earned him the ROY award. Now, it seems like we can't wait to get rid of him.

It will soon be just another miserable chapter in the miserable history of the Redskins during the Dan Snyder years.

[NYCskinfan82]

One man does not make a team. Let's fix the OL first and then give him & KC a fear shot. I just don't understand most people saying give KC a chance but not RG3.

[SFREDSKIN]

Since JG doesn't want him and Snyder does, I say Scot McC will make the final decision.

Any chance RGIII gets traded? Any truth to the rumblings that Coach and Owner aren't on the same page philosophically? #jkmailbag @john_keim

— DennisDuncan (@DennisDuncan4) March 19, 2015

Keim: If it were up to the coach, Griffin would be gone. The owner, it appears, wants to keep him around another year. Griffin does not have a ton of supporters on the football side as far as feeling he can become the sort of franchise quarterback they once envisioned. So, no, I don't think they're on the same page. Not saying Jay Gruden is right or wrong in his assessment, just that they differ. I think the only way Griffin gets traded is if another quarterback comes back in return (probably obvious). Based on the coaches not having much confidence in him, anything is possible. But they'll have to convince the owner it's a smart move and I'm not sure they'll be able to do so.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Since JG doesn't want him and Snyder does, I say Scot McC will make the final decision.

Any chance RGIII gets traded? Any truth to the rumblings that Coach and Owner aren't on the same page philosophically? #jkmailbag @john_keim

— DennisDuncan (@DennisDuncan4) March 19, 2015

Keim: If it were up to the coach, Griffin would be gone. The owner, it appears, wants to keep him around another year. Griffin does not have a ton of supporters on the football side as far as feeling he can become the sort of franchise quarterback they once envisioned. So, no, I don't think they're on the same page. Not saying Jay Gruden is right or wrong in his assessment, just that they differ. I think the only way Griffin gets traded is if another quarterback comes back in return (probably obvious). Based on the coaches not having much confidence in him, anything is possible. But they'll have to convince the owner it's a smart move and I'm not sure they'll be able to do so.

If only Gruden didn't want him around, I wouldn't have said the Redskins are looking to move RG3. Jay's voice alone is not that powerful

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

If only Gruden didn't want him around, I wouldn't have said the Redskins are looking to move RG3. Jay's voice alone is not that powerful

So does Scot McCloughan concur with Jay, or is he willing to roll with RG3 no matter what?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

So does Scot McCloughan concur with Jay, or is he willing to roll with RG3 no matter what?

Like I said they're trying to move him (for the right price) and I wouldn't have said that if it was only Jay that thought it best to move forward in a different direction.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

One man does not make a team. Let's fix the OL first and then give him & KC a fear shot. I just don't understand most people saying give KC a chance but not RG3.

Because KC was on pace for 5000 yards and 32 TDs. Yes, he had the turnover issue, but history shows that even the best QBs struggle with turnovers early on in their careers, and Cousins has only started 9 games.

And the O line wasn't nearly as big of an issue with McCoy and Cousins under Center. Why people insist the O-line is terrible is beyond me. Every Analyst, Coach, Scout and Pundit that has reviewed RG3's game film blame him for a vast majority of the protection issues.

The O-line can be improved, but RG3 will continue to make them look bad with his erratic play and inability to get rid of the ball.

It's not unreasonable to think Cousins can't get better after only 9 starts. It's entirely reasonable to pass judgment on RG3 after 36 starts.

[Meks]

Smfh at how far griffin has fallen from his rookie year...

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Meks

Smfh at how far griffin has fallen from his rookie year...

This.

[skinsguy]

Wow, well if SmootSmack is saying that RGIII is likely to be moved this year, then it does make me consider the possibilities of some deal with San Diego. I have always been high on Phillip Rivers. To me, he's one of the elite quarterbacks in the league. To grab him AND still have a 1st round pick would be great. The 'skins are likely to trade down anyway.

However, if the Chargers are wanting Marcus Mariota, I just don't see how he falls in the 'skins lap? I would assume they'd have to do whatever they could to jump up to at least the #2 spot. But if he does fall to #5, the Redskins need to either take him, or trade that pick to the Chargers for Phillip Rivers. I'd prefer to roll with Rivers, still have a first round pick at #17, which is still a possibility for the 'skins to trade down and pick up more draft picks.

If this scenario were to happen, I would not be upset in the least. Well, except for having to stare at the #10 jersey that my wife gave me for Christmas back in 2012.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Wow, well if SmootSmack is saying that RGIII is likely to be moved this year, then it does make me consider the possibilities of some deal with San Diego. I have always been high on Phillip Rivers. To me, he's one of the elite quarterbacks in the league. To grab him AND still have a 1st round pick would be great. The 'skins are likely to trade down anyway.

However, if the Chargers are wanting Marcus Mariota, I just don't see how he falls in the 'skins lap? I would assume they'd have to do whatever they could to jump up to at least the #2 spot. But if he does fall to #5, the Redskins need to either take him, or trade that pick to the Chargers for Phillip Rivers. I'd prefer to roll with Rivers, still have a first round pick at #17, which is still a possibility for the 'skins to trade down and pick up more draft picks.

If this scenario were to happen, I would not be upset in the least. Well, except for having to stare at the #10 jersey that my wife gave me for Christmas back in 2012.

I heard this on the radio last week. If this opportunity presented itself the Skins have to take it. You still keep your first rounder and you get a franchise QB for the next 3-4 years or so. Chargers can't be that stupid can they?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

... If this scenario were to happen, I would not be upset in the least. Well, except for having to stare at the #10 jersey that my wife gave me for Christmas back in 2012.

I would suggest you are not alone in that particular hell. My wife also wanted an RGIII jersey for Christmas. I had to drive down to Columbia to get the jersey b/c everyone around Baltimore was licensed only to sell Ravens' gear. (Same Christmas, my parents gave me an Orakpo jersey. - lol)

When I went to the training camp in 2013, half of all the jerseys being worn were RGIII.

Crazy.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I would suggest you are not alone in that particular hell. My wife also wanted an RGIII jersey for Christmas. I had to drive down to Columbia to get the jersey b/c everyone around Baltimore was licensed only to sell Ravens' gear. (Same Christmas, my parents gave me an Orakpo jersey. - lol)

When I went to the training camp in 2013, half of all the jerseys being worn were RGIII.

Crazy.

I should have asked for a Morris jersey instead! My wife has the Morris jersey (of course it's a women's jersey so no, we can't switch, lol!)

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Wow, well if SmootSmack is saying that RGIII is likely to be moved this year, then it does make me consider the possibilities of some deal with San Diego. I have always been high on Phillip Rivers. To me, he's one of the elite quarterbacks in the league. To grab him AND still have a 1st round pick would be great. The 'skins are likely to trade down anyway.

However, if the Chargers are wanting Marcus Mariota, I just don't see how he falls in the 'skins lap? I would assume they'd have to do whatever they could to jump up to at least the #2 spot. But if he does fall to #5, the Redskins need to either take him, or trade that pick to the Chargers for Phillip Rivers. I'd prefer to roll with Rivers, still have a first round pick at #17, which is still a possibility for the 'skins to trade down and pick up more draft picks.

If this scenario were to happen, I would not be upset in the least. Well, except for having to stare at the #10 jersey that my wife gave me for Christmas back in 2012.

They're trying to move him. Can't say for sure that they will

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

They're trying to move him. Can't say for sure that they will

So, if I am hearing what you're saying, they are trying to move him and are willing to do so - but there is some value the want in return. It's not exactly "Oh dear God, someone take him - just offer us a ham sandwich and he's yours."

Except that, if it were up to JG, not even a ham sandwich would be required.