New Defensive Coordinator 2015

[Ruhskins]

Redskins fan logic:

Wade Phillip interview: HELL NO, he's soft, too much of a nice guy!. His son is coaching with the team!. This is another good ol' boy hire! We need new blood!! Blah blah blah!!

Raheem Morris interview: F*CK NO!! His secondary sucked!!! He didn't develop anyone!!! This is another Bruce Allen hire!!!

Joe Barry hire: WTF??!!! His defense in Detroit 8 years ago sucked!! This is another Bruce Allen hire!!! Why are we the only team that hires people that are known to the team FO??!!! WE'RE DOOOOMMMEEEEDDDD!!!

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Redskins fan logic:

Wade Phillip interview: HELL NO, he's soft, too much of a nice guy!. His son is coaching with the team!. This is another good ol' boy hire! We need new blood!! Blah blah blah!!

I know this isn't accurate. If anything, I haven't seen a single Skins fan that opposes Wade Phillips. It's more like they are wanting to riot if it's anything BUT Phillips.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I know this isn't accurate. If anything, I haven't seen a single Skins fan that opposes Wade Phillips. It's more like they are wanting to riot if it's anything BUT Phillips.

You should really take a look at that thread about Phillips interviewing.

Originally Posted by Lotus

But Phillips did not work in Tampa, and we like to hire coaches with connections to Tampa, despite the fact that Tampa under Allen did not consistently win. But, hey, let's keep getting the Tampa band back together, regardless of whether they were sucky or not.

So we should focus on what coaches did 8 years ago and not what they've done recently? Okay.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

You should really take a look at that thread about Phillips interviewing.

Maybe I just missed those idiots or maybe tuned them out. Didn't see any hate on Twitter, but maybe I tuned those fools out too.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Maybe I just missed those idiots or maybe tuned them out. Didn't see any hate on Twitter, but maybe I tuned those fools out too.

Some people said that Phillips would have been the "good ol' boy" hire (which the whole concept is ridiculous) and that he wasn't a tough DC.

Everything that I'm reading about Barry in San Diego (where he's been for the past three/four years) looks good. I'm willing to give him a chance.

[SFREDSKIN]

John Keim ‏@john_keim

A note on Barry's Lions tenure (more later, if/when)... of 11 starters on '08 squad, 7 were out of the NFL w/in 2 years, 4 after '08 season

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

John Keim ‏@john_keim

A note on Barry's Lions tenure (more later, if/when)... of 11 starters on '08 squad, 7 were out of the NFL w/in 2 years, 4 after '08 season

I wanted Haslett gone, but that was the situation here also.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So we should focus on what coaches did 8 years ago and not what they've done recently? Okay.

You're right! I mean, just because he had a great interview and worked in Tampa with BA many years ago, the Skins wouldn't hire a journeyman assistant coach who was an abysmal failure in his one attempt at leading a defense without some consistent stellar work in recent years on his resume to counterbalance it. Let's look at Barry's resume as a DC at the pro level in the last five years and compare it some of the other candidates who were mentioned ...

Damn, I can't seem to find it. I know it's around here somewhere. ... Are you hiding it from us Ruhskins? You clever boy!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

You're right! I mean, just because he had a great interview and worked in Tampa with BA many years ago, the Skins wouldn't hire a journeyman assistant coach who was an abysmal failure in his one attempt at leading a defense without some consistent stellar work in recent years on his resume to counterbalance it. Let's look at Barry's resume as a DC at the pro level in the last five years and compare it some of the other candidates who were mentioned ...

Damn, I can't seem to find it. I know it's around here somewhere. ... Are you hiding it from us Ruhskins? You clever boy!

I'm hiding it, and you're not getting it. LOL.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Redskins fan logic:

Wade Phillip interview: HELL NO, he's soft, too much of a nice guy!. His son is coaching with the team!. This is another good ol' boy hire! We need new blood!! Blah blah blah!!

Raheem Morris interview: F*CK NO!! His secondary sucked!!! He didn't develop anyone!!! This is another Bruce Allen hire!!!

Joe Barry hire: WTF??!!! His defense in Detroit 8 years ago sucked!! This is another Bruce Allen hire!!! Why are we the only team that hires people that are known to the team FO??!!! WE'RE DOOOOMMMEEEEDDDD!!!

lol ... true, true. Based on my 40+ years of fandom and my complete powerlessness to affect any change, I am reluctantly with the wait and see crowd at this point. My burgundy colored glasses, however, have become pretty faded over the last few years. Call me jaded, but the dysfunction and past mismanagement of this team has just beaten me down.

As in the past, I truly hope that assumptions of the apocalypse are sorely misplaced. Given the many red flags (BA Tampa connection, Barry's poor performance in Detroit - even if many years ago - and his lack of DC experience since, and the many experienced DC's with solid resumes available), however, it is hard for me to be excited about the hire. It seems to me that, when I have hoped folks were wrong to assume the worst, the prophetic vision of the Cassandras was recognized only after things had gone to hell.

At this point in my fandom, why should I expect folks are wrong to assume the worst this time from this team with this hire? Anyone? ... Anyone?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Redskins fan logic:

Wade Phillip interview: HELL NO, he's soft, too much of a nice guy!. His son is coaching with the team!. This is another good ol' boy hire! We need new blood!! Blah blah blah!!

Raheem Morris interview: F*CK NO!! His secondary sucked!!! He didn't develop anyone!!! This is another Bruce Allen hire!!!

Joe Barry hire: WTF??!!! His defense in Detroit 8 years ago sucked!! This is another Bruce Allen hire!!! Why are we the only team that hires people that are known to the team FO??!!! WE'RE DOOOOMMMEEEEDDDD!!!

Skins fans be like...

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Redskins fan logic:

Wade Phillip interview: HELL NO, he's soft, too much of a nice guy!. His son is coaching with the team!. This is another good ol' boy hire! We need new blood!! Blah blah blah!!

Raheem Morris interview: F*CK NO!! His secondary sucked!!! He didn't develop anyone!!! This is another Bruce Allen hire!!!

Joe Barry hire: WTF??!!! His defense in Detroit 8 years ago sucked!! This is another Bruce Allen hire!!! Why are we the only team that hires people that are known to the team FO??!!! WE'RE DOOOOMMMEEEEDDDD!!!

Meanwhile, some of us are huge fans of Phillips because we love his resume, and don't want Barry or Morris(forgive me Skinzman ) because their past defenses have sucked.

Maybe Barry really did get the short end of the stick in Detroit. Who knows? But people gave Haslett his share of excuses too, and look how that turned out.

Anyway, I don't like the hire(if this is for real), but we needed a change from Haslett. Maybe this guy is the right one. I doubt it.

[Ruhskins]

More on the no hire:

Dianna Marie Russini ‏@NBCdianna 6m6 minutes ago
Joe Barry has not been hired by the Washington Redskins as defensive coordinator per sources. A decision has not been made.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

More on the no hire:

Dianna Marie Russini ‏@NBCdianna 6m6 minutes ago
Joe Barry has not been hired by the Washington Redskins as defensive coordinator per sources. A decision has not been made.

So sad for the warpathers that committed suicide over this...