Conference Championship thread

[TheHolyGibbs]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

They are not the same balls for both teams, each team supplies 12.

I will be in the minority here but....if this is true they should forfeit. It isn't the reason they won but, you cheat, you lose. Either that or the NFL needs to ban hoodies to really make Billy pay.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Same balls used for both teams .

I think enough posters have pointed out your ignorance on the subject so I'll continue on with the rest of what I have to say. You can't give NE the benefit of the doubt since 11 of the 12 balls were deflated. That and they've had a history of cheating. Dock a draft pick and have the league start furnishing the balls and control them during games instead of allowing teams to handle them. That said, those balls didn't change the outcome of that ass whupping.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I think enough posters have pointed out your ignorance on the subject so I'll continue on with the rest of what I have to say. You can't give NE the benefit of the doubt since 11 of the 12 balls were deflated. That and they've had a history of cheating. Dock a draft pick and have the league start furnishing the balls and control them during games instead of allowing teams to handle them.

Has anyone heard about the psi for the Colts balls yet? I am curious if they were all in compliance as well.

[donofriose]

Got caught cheating. Should be forced to forfeit a draft pick or fine. A late pick though, this isn't really worth a 1st or 2nd.

[redskins5044]

Cheating is cheating it probably wouldnt have made a difference in the outcome but they need to punished. But knowing the NFL is a will be a slap on the wrist, unlike us getting docked $36 million dollars cap space for unwritten rules for an uncapped year...NFL is a f'ing joke and they will not sling mud on the prized Pats.

[Chico23231]

funny how there is a history of cheating and rule bending from that franchise. Because of this history I hope the league takes draft picks

[Alvin Walton]

Pffftttt.....if all the teams in the NFL got caught "cheating" there wouldnt even be a draft.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Pffftttt.....if all the teams in the NFL got caught "cheating" there wouldnt even be a draft.

If the NFL catches a cheater red-handed and does nothing about it then they are, in effect, declaring open season on cheating. That would hurt the league.

[JoeRedskin]

Again, this is not the first time they have been caught red-handed. They got a pretty hefty hit the first time around with video gate. Didn't stop them from doing it again. As repeat offenders, they should lose multiple first round picks and a few seconds. Their players should be barred from the pro-bowl for inflating their stats. If the league said, "You're a repeat offender cheater and, as such, you forfeit the game." I would be okay with it.

We either all play by the rules and pay the consequences when we get caught not doing so or their really aren't any rules.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Again, this is not the first time they have been caught red-handed. They got a pretty hefty hit the first time around with video gate. Didn't stop them from doing it again. As repeat offenders, they should lose multiple first round picks and a few seconds. Their players should be barred from the pro-bowl for inflating their stats. If the league said, "You're a repeat offender cheater and, as such, you forfeit the game." I would be okay with it.

We either all play by the rules and pay the consequences when we get caught not doing so or their really aren't any rules.

Belichick's legacy is that he is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, NFL coach ever.

Why he spoils his legacy with cheating is beyond me. It's a shame, really.

But you are right, he deserves to have the book thrown at him.

[Ruhskins]

A friend of mine who's a diehard Pats fan just posted this:

"I've spent most of the morning thinking about my response to the issues with Patriots, especially since everyone knows I'm a fan. My conclusion? I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed in the culture and pressure the team has placed on winning, all at the expense of values. I'm particularly disappointed at the message this sends our most impressionable fans--the kids. I'd much rather teach them about losing with value rather than winning by cheating. While we don't know the whole story yet, and I'm not about to abandon my team, I just hope the young ones that look up to these players and coaches learn that life and sports is more than just finding a way to win."

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

A friend of mine who's a diehard Pats fan just posted this:



"I've spent most of the morning thinking about my response to the issues with Patriots, especially since everyone knows I'm a fan. My conclusion? I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed in the culture and pressure the team has placed on winning, all at the expense of values. I'm particularly disappointed at the message this sends our most impressionable fans--the kids. I'd much rather teach them about losing with value rather than winning by cheating. While we don't know the whole story yet, and I'm not about to abandon my team, I just hope the young ones that look up to these players and coaches learn that life and sports is more than just finding a way to win."

Nice to see a fan not stick his head in the sand. It's rare to see. Pats fans on my FB have been in total denial.

[Chico23231]

IMO you cant give the Pats the benifit of doubt...there is too much already there.

Bill Belicheat is a cheater. Kraft should be ashamed, but he has allowed it and should be held accountable as well. Low character, both of them

[BaltimoreSkins]

On Aaron Rodgers radio show he admitted to increasing the PSI of the balls and yelling at the refs when they lowered them to below 13.5 psi. I am not excusing it merely pointing out that this is a widespread for of cheating. I am curious if it is a turn a blind eye to it type of thing.

Regardless I am pulling for the Pats in the Superbowl. Keep it on the east coast, plus when ever the Skins are out and there is no longer an NFC east team to root against. I pull for the region I would rather live in. I would prefer New England over the pacific Northwest

[SmootSmack]

I feel like this is a Barry Bonds like situation. Bonds was so good. First ballot Hall of Fame before he got into the steroid game. He didn't need them

Patriots are so good, such a finely run organization and team that they didn't need this. Yes, every team (most teams) fudge the rules but it seems to be a bigger public issue with the Pats than with other teams.

Regardless, I think they still would have crushed the Colts and I'm rooting for them on Sunday