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Old 01-20-2015, 11:01 PM   #1
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Any info on his scheme? Is it too early for him to have a scheme?

More Pittsburg with big guys occupying lineman or more Wade Phillips with the d line actively rushing?
I believe Jay said 3-4 today
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:06 PM   #2
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Lions 2008 defensive roster can be found at the link. Aside from the immortal Chartric Darby, Barry didn't have much to work with.

2008 Detroit Lions Starters, Roster, & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:21 PM   #3
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For me this has been a great offseason so far, the GM I wanted was hired, the best OL coach available fell on our laps and Foerster was replaced. I like the fact that Joe Barry is pretty much an unknown with much to prove after his Detroit experience (so glad Haslett is long gone) I believe he will be highly motivated, energetic and make players accountable. This is what I wanted and you won't hear me bitching for quite awhile
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Old 01-21-2015, 06:06 PM   #4
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Re: 2015 Redskins Coaches/Coordinators News

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I believe Jay said 3-4 today
Right.

I should have been more specific.

Any notions out there whether Barry's 3 down lineman in the base defense play pass rush as a priority or occupy blockers as a priority?

What changes in philosophy can we expect from last years base strategy?

Probably too early to know without a track record as a coordinator but I'm really interested in the changes to expect. (Probably also speculative without knowing what talent will be here at what positions.)

I really liked the philosophy Wade Phillips followed in his 3-4 schemes. Get the big guys in the QB's face asap.

I haven't seen any articles or interviews addressing it.
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Old 01-21-2015, 06:19 PM   #5
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Right.

I should have been more specific.

Any notions out there whether Barry's 3 down lineman in the base defense play pass rush as a priority or occupy blockers as a priority?

What changes in philosophy can we expect from last years base strategy?

Probably too early to know without a track record as a coordinator but I'm really interested in the changes to expect. (Probably also speculative without knowing what talent will be here at what positions.)

I really liked the philosophy Wade Phillips followed in his 3-4 schemes. Get the big guys in the QB's face asap.

I haven't seen any articles or interviews addressing it.
Here’s a look at what Joe Barry’s Redskins defense might look like - The Washington Post
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:12 PM   #6
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Great. Thanks.
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:15 PM   #7
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I'm really trying to reserve judgement, but this seems like more of the old. Barry's resume fails to impress. A lifetime position coach who failed miserably when he was last in this role. He doesn't seem like he's going to help us within 1-2 years -- and that's all Jay probably has. If Jay leaves then Barry's done too.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Just like the storylines of the years past:
1) "Haslett will be much better because Shanny was no longer handcuffing him."
2) "Bringing back the same secondary with Ryan Clark will somehow be better."
3) "Hatcher still has plenty of gas in the tank at age 30+"
4) "Orakpo would be unleashed this year -- and deserved a franchise tag."
5) "Rambo is playing so much better"

I've heard these crazy stories in the past. I'm now just waiting for McC's drafts to make us better each year for the next 3-4 years, and will be along for the ride.
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I'm really trying to reserve judgement, but this seems like more of the old. Barry's resume fails to impress. A lifetime position coach who failed miserably when he was last in this role. He doesn't seem like he's going to help us within 1-2 years -- and that's all Jay probably has. If Jay leaves then Barry's done too.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Just like the storylines of the years past:
1) "Haslett will be much better because Shanny was no longer handcuffing him."
2) "Bringing back the same secondary with Ryan Clark will somehow be better."
3) "Hatcher still has plenty of gas in the tank at age 30+"
4) "Orakpo would be unleashed this year -- and deserved a franchise tag."
5) "Rambo is playing so much better"

I've heard these crazy stories in the past. I'm now just waiting for McC's drafts to make us better each year for the next 3-4 years, and will be along for the ride.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:24 AM   #9
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I'm really trying to reserve judgement, but this seems like more of the old. Barry's resume fails to impress. A lifetime position coach who failed miserably when he was last in this role. He doesn't seem like he's going to help us within 1-2 years -- and that's all Jay probably has. If Jay leaves then Barry's done too.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Just like the storylines of the years past:
1) "Haslett will be much better because Shanny was no longer handcuffing him."
2) "Bringing back the same secondary with Ryan Clark will somehow be better."
3) "Hatcher still has plenty of gas in the tank at age 30+"
4) "Orakpo would be unleashed this year -- and deserved a franchise tag."
5) "Rambo is playing so much better"

I've heard these crazy stories in the past. I'm now just waiting for McC's drafts to make us better each year for the next 3-4 years, and will be along for the ride.
You actually believed that B.S.?

OK, I confess, I still believe that Hatcher can help us but now we're in a build with young players mode so it makes little sense for him to be here.
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Dammit! Is it too much to ask for the Redskins to hire a defensive coordinator that ran a GOOD defense before? First Haslett of ever diminishing returns on the Ds he ran. Now we bring in Mr.0-16.

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Dammit! Is it too much to ask for the Redskins to hire a defensive coordinator that ran a GOOD defense before? First Haslett of ever diminishing returns on the Ds he ran. Now we bring in Mr.0-16.

Swell.
The Detroit deal was 8 years ago, AND he was running the Tampa 2 system under Marinelli who was Kiffin's right hand man in developing it. For the last four years he has been coaching in a 3-4 and gotten good reviews as position coach.

Not giving the guy a pass, but willing to give him a chance. If he pulls a Detroit, then he AND Gruden are gone next year.
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The Detroit deal was 8 years ago, AND he was running the Tampa 2 system under Marinelli who was Kiffin's right hand man in developing it. For the last four years he has been coaching in a 3-4 and gotten good reviews as position coach.



Not giving the guy a pass, but willing to give him a chance. If he pulls a Detroit, then he AND Gruden are gone next year.

Yup, and let's admit it's the name factor too. Fans kill the team for "star chasing" but when they hire an under the radar type the assumption is he sucks.

Bottom line is without an improvement in talent it won't matter who is running the D.
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Yup, and let's admit it's the name factor too. Fans kill the team for "star chasing" but when they hire an under the radar type the assumption is he sucks.

Bottom line is without an improvement in talent it won't matter who is running the D.
and if the offense continues to suck, we're going to have the same results.
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The Detroit deal was 8 years ago, AND he was running the Tampa 2 system under Marinelli who was Kiffin's right hand man in developing it. For the last four years he has been coaching in a 3-4 and gotten good reviews as position coach.

Not giving the guy a pass, but willing to give him a chance. If he pulls a Detroit, then he AND Gruden are gone next year.
Funny. We hire dallas' OL coach. Now we hire the dallas defensive coordinator's old assistant to be our DC. Does someone in our front office love the cowpukes, or what? Lol.
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For what it's worth:

NFL Jarret Johnson high on Redskins defensive coordinator Joe Barry - ESPN
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