The Obama Years- A GOP love story

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Just curious, where do you rate obama, pelosi, and reid on the political spectrum?

Here is one for the 2012 election and its candidates.

The Political Compass - US Presidential Election 2012


I would venture to guess that Reid was in the same range of Obama while Pelosi would be slightly left of Obama/Reid.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Here is one for the 2012 election and its candidates.

The Political Compass - US Presidential Election 2012


I would venture to guess that Reid was in the same range of Obama while Pelosi would be slightly left of Obama/Reid.

I don't by into the whole Obama is a socialist BS and I think that graph validates my belief. Whenever some one tells me Obama is hell bent on wealth redistribution I always ask how is that different from any other President? It is usually met with crickets.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Here is one for the 2012 election and its candidates.

The Political Compass - US Presidential Election 2012


I would venture to guess that Reid was in the same range of Obama while Pelosi would be slightly left of Obama/Reid.

I am amused you want to classify Obama, Reid, and Pelosi as a right-wingers, while castigating other right wingers.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I am amused you want to classify Obama, Reid, and Pelosi as a right-wingers, while castigating other right wingers.

Can you show me where I said anything of the sort? Let's not just make up bullshit on the fly. Thanks. Also, have you not paid attention to the shit I've given Obama and crew? Just keep your head in the sand on those things as well. The GOP just happen to make it easier because they do/say much dumber things.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Can you show me where I said anything of the sort? Let's not just make up bullshit on the fly. Thanks. Also, have you not paid attention to the shit I've given Obama and crew? Just keep your head in the sand on those things as well. The GOP just happen to make it easier because they do/say much dumber things.

The chart you posted has Obama, Romney, Gingrinch, and Santorum, in the upper right corner of the upper right quadrant of the map. By those standards, yes they are all right wingers. And "one party" as that very article says. I know it's a pathetic attempt by whoever made that graphic, to say that Obama really isn't that different than republicans, and I guess compared to communists, anarchists, and other extremists, he isn't. Doesn't prove much, though.

So you want to backtrack from your previous post of how you would rate Obama, Reid, and Pelosi with that link you posted? And you really should read your own links, before accusing me of bullshit and having your head in the sand.

So, about the "shit you have given Obama". Do you criticize him more for being too liberal, or not liberal enough? Is he too "right wing" for you?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

The chart you posted has Obama, Romney, Gingrinch, and Santorum, in the upper right corner of the upper right quadrant of the map. By those standards, yes they are all right wingers. And "one party" as that very article says. I know it's a pathetic attempt by whoever made that graphic, to say that Obama really isn't that different than republicans, and I guess compared to communists, anarchists, and other extremists, he isn't. Doesn't prove much, though.

So you want to backtrack from your previous post of how you would rate Obama, Reid, and Pelosi with that link you posted? And you really should read your own links, before accusing me of bullshit and having your head in the sand.

So, about the "shit you have given Obama". Do you criticize him more for being too liberal, or not liberal enough? Is he too "right wing" for you?

No, I just said I wouldn't call Obama a "right winger". I wouldn't call Mitt Romney a "right winger" either. Are they both conservative? Yes. Do they both shift to the right? Yes. I'm not backtracking on anything. These guys are more alike than they are different. I criticized Obama mainly on his stances on extending Patriot Act, signing the NDAA, hiring corporate shills to be in his cabinet. Going after people (Snowden and other journalist) for exposing government crimes and actions. I criticize Obama for claiming to have one of the most "transparent" government, yet continues to act in cloak and dagger modes, while going after journalists for exposing them. More journalists have been prosecuted under Obama's watch than any other President. So much I can criticize the man for, but I don't have the time for it.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No, I just said I wouldn't call Obama a "right winger". I wouldn't call Mitt Romney a "right winger" either. Are they both conservative? Yes. Do they both shift to the right? Yes. I'm not backtracking on anything. These guys are more alike than they are different. I criticized Obama mainly on his stances on extending Patriot Act, signing the NDAA, hiring corporate shills to be in his cabinet. Going after people (Snowden and other journalist) for exposing government crimes and actions. I criticize Obama for claiming to have one of the most "transparent" government, yet continues to act in cloak and dagger modes, while going after journalists for exposing them. More journalists have been prosecuted under Obama's watch than any other President. So much I can criticize the man for, but I don't have the time for it.

Yeah, it's sad how whether it's Reagan or Obama coming in with talk of change, they swing back to status quo pretty quick, on lots of things.