Super Bowl Gameday Thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Thing is, Tom didn't play very good the first two Super Bowls. I think he played like dog shit if I'm correct. (70-80 QBR) Those years in early 2000s were good to win with or without Tom. In fact, Drew Bledsoe had to get the win in Pittsburgh that year for them to even go to the Super Bowl.



Also, I"m going to compile the numbers and show you guys how good some of those defenses were early on. Those teams weren't flashy nor did they put a bunch of points, but they rode the defense, got turnovers, let Brady manage the game and finish it off with Vinateri's foot.

So is he top five all time as you have said a couple times or is he just lucky and Would be nothing without his kicker? Lmao. Ive never seen anybody try to argue two sides of an argument in my life like you have over the last few pages of this thread. Lol. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP IT MAN - HE IS GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT. If not for him the Pats wouldnt have won a single god damn superbowl.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

So is he top five all time as you have said a couple times or is he just lucky and Would be nothing without his kicker? Lmao. Ive never seen anybody try to argue two sides of an argument in my life like you have over the last few pages of this thread. Lol. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP IT MAN - HE IS GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT. If not for him the Pats wouldnt have won a single god damn superbowl.

I think you miss the point entirely. I play devils advocate when you gush over Tommy boy and point out that Tom would be nothing without his teammates. The same is true for the likes of Vinateri and the rest of the team. They wouldn't be as successful as they are with him. I happen to think that the earlier Patriots teams didn't need him as much as they do now. I don't know why I even bother responding to your ludicrous notions because they sound like most other short sighted fanboy out there. Joe Montana had help. Tom Brady had help. Peyton Manning had help. All three of these guys are in the top 5 and none of them would be who they are without their team. I'm not here to argue two sides of the coin, just to refute the crap you guys spew.