2015 Draft Prospects... First Edition

[keemarley]

Originally Posted by redskinsfan1980

We're all entitled to our own opinion. No one here is a personnel expert. We're all just fans with our own opinions. However, I disagree with you about Long and Moses. I was never really high on Moses coming out of college. After watching him in limited snaps. I'm convinced that this guy will be a average RT at best. He couldn't beat out Polumbus or Compton. That should say it all. Spencer Long might turn into somebody. At this point, I really just don't know. He couldn't be any worse than Chris Chester.

I have concerns about both of these guys. They couldn't outplay Polumbus, Compton, and Chester. Both of these guys have had serious injuries thus far in their young careers. I'm not sure if Moses is going to be available for training camp. When these guys did get a chance to see the field neither one of them were impressive. I don't have any confidence in these guys.

The OL is just as important as the front seven. The offense will only be as good as the offensive line. Last year we couldn't run the ball without RG3 in the line up. Our OL in below average. The only way we're going to be a good line is if we put some good players on that OL. The pretenders that we have on our team right now will not get it done.

With that being said, I have no problem with investing the first three picks in the front seven. However, I don't believe for a second the guys we have right now on our OL is good enough to get the job done.

Great points. We'll have to see how it turns out. I think the problem with Moses was fans viewed him as a day 1 starter. I don't think the staff ever anticipated that. If we're truly going to build through the draft we have to give our staff some room to coach up players and give those players time to grow. Whether or staff is competent is a whole other discussion haha

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by keemarley

Great points. We'll have to see how it turns out. I think the problem with Moses was fans viewed him as a day 1 starter. I don't think the staff ever anticipated that. If we're truly going to build through the draft we have to give our staff some room to coach up players and give those players time to grow. Whether or staff is competent is a whole other discussion haha

IMO specific to this draft, if you got a top 5 pick as we do we you go front 7 no question about it. We have a great diverse pool of guys in the defensive front...and I think we could get a good OT in the second round.

[redskinsfan1980]

Originally Posted by keemarley

Great points. We'll have to see how it turns out. I think the problem with Moses was fans viewed him as a day 1 starter. I don't think the staff ever anticipated that. If we're truly going to build through the draft we have to give our staff some room to coach up players and give those players time to grow. Whether or staff is competent is a whole other discussion haha

You're absolutely right. I'm all for developing our young guys. That is why I stress that we be patient with RG3, Kirk Cousins, David Amerson, Jordan Reed, Philip Thomas, Trent Murphy, etc. In this up and coming draft we need to find those mid and late round gems. I'm confident that we got the right guy picking the players. I can't say the same thing about the guy coaching them.

I keep hearing people refer to Jay Gruden as a qb guru. Which is laughable because I can't think of not one good qb that he developed. Andy Dalton is a average qb with above average talent around him. Gruden was thoroughly out coached this year. The only reason I think he got the job was because he coach in Tampa Bay and his last name is Gruden. This man is Jim Zorn 2.0.

[Irrefutable]

Randy Gregory weighs in at 235...... no thanks at #5

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Randy Gregory weighs in at 235...... no thanks at #5

Because his weight means he can't play football.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Because his weight means he can't play football.

Gregory was reportedly 218 at some point last season- can you name a good NFL OLB that weighs 235 ?

NFL Draft | Pauline: Gregory started training at 218 lbs - Rotoworld.com

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Gregory was reportedly 218 at some point last season- can you name a good NFL OLB that weighs 235 ?

NFL Draft | Pauline: Gregory started training at 218 lbs - Rotoworld.com

Lavonte David, De'Andre Levy, Kiko Alonzo, Thomas Davis just to name a few

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Lavonte David, De'Andre Levy, Kiko Alonzo, Thomas Davis just to name a few

and none of them had more than 2 or 3 sacks.... they are not 6'5" either

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Gregory was reportedly 218 at some point last season- can you name a good NFL OLB that weighs 235 ?

NFL Draft | Pauline: Gregory started training at 218 lbs - Rotoworld.com

If Gregory kicked so much patootey when he was around 220, imagine how much arse he will kick when he fills out near 250.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Gregory was reportedly 218 at some point last season- can you name a good NFL OLB that weighs 235 ?

NFL Draft | Pauline: Gregory started training at 218 lbs - Rotoworld.com

According to ESPN article (link below) Lawrence Taylor as a rookie with Giants was 6-foot-3, 237-pound.
I think you are making a big deal about a number.

NFL draft -- Comparing Jadeveon Clowney to Lawrence Taylor is foolish - ESPN

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Randy Gregory weighs in at 235...... no thanks at #5

He'd make a good safety at that weight. So my question would be how are you in coverage.