Quarterback Hype

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Lotus

What if Chip wants to get Mariota by trading Bradford...to us?

Maybe he also wants Alfred Morris... Lots of 1st and 2nd round picks he wants to trade all for his boy and Alfred Morris.

[NC_Skins]

Are people STILL talking as if Chip is going to trade up for Mariota and use Bradford as a chip? He'd been better off using Foles a bargaining tool. Bradford is the Eagles starting QB and that's about as open shut as it's going to get.


This whole "Skins would pick Mariota at 5" is a huge smoke screen. No way is Mariota the type of QB that Jay would be looking for. If he wanted a QB that played spread type offense, he's got one of those on the bench. Hell, Robert still has a higher ceiling than Mariota as well.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Are people STILL talking as if Chip is going to trade up for Mariota and use Bradford as a chip? He'd been better off using Foles a bargaining tool. Bradford is the Eagles starting QB and that's about as open shut as it's going to get.


This whole "Skins would pick Mariota at 5" is a huge smoke screen. No way is Mariota the type of QB that Jay would be looking for. If he wanted a QB that played spread type offense, he's got one of those on the bench. Hell, Robert still has a higher ceiling than Mariota as well.

Not necessarily.

A) People talk about Bradford's contract as an obstacle. It's not. It benefits both Bradford and the team to renegotiate a long-term deal. That $13 mil. number is a red herring.

B) Many folks think that Bradford, when healthy, is better than Foles and way better than Mariota.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

What if Chip wants to get Mariota by trading Bradford...to us?

Example:
Philly gets pick # 5

We get pick #20
Sam Bradford
Jason Kelce or Brandon Graham or Zach Ertz / their #2 pick

Do you think we would get that much for the 5th? I could see a swap of firsts and Bradford.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Do you think we would get that much for the 5th? I could see a swap of firsts and Bradford.

Maybe not. Just musing. But 20th to 5th is a huge jump and Chip REALLY wants to make that jump, so no matter what, we should fleece them.

For our side, what if RGIII '15 looks like RGIII '14? We'll need a starter.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

What if Chip wants to get Mariota by trading Bradford...to us?

Example:
Philly gets pick # 5

We get pick #20
Sam Bradford
Jason Kelce or Brandon Graham or Zach Ertz / their #2 pick

As much as I'm enjoying the mental image of Chip wearing a barrel, I suspect that Philly already has a deal in place with Tenn. Bradford, pick #20, and a second round pick for pick #2.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The problem with any trade up scenario is that they also traded their 2nd next year. So IF their first is a part of any trade they would not have a pick till the 3rd round no matter which qb they keep. And CK isn't THAT dumb. Now if MM were to fall out of top 10 maybe they package Bradford and picks but I doubt it.

A deal would not necessarily include a second round pick. Players or other picks could be exchanged.

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

As much as I'm enjoying the mental image of Chip wearing a barrel, I suspect that Philly already has a deal in place with Tenn. Bradford, pick #20, and a second round pick for pick #2.

You are probably right...but we need a starting QB and a handshake deal can be broken, so I hope.

But all hope is not lost. If you are right, IMO Chip will draft the middling Mariota and still wear a barrel when MM can't break the 8-8 barrier.

[Alvin Walton]

Mariota to Chicago?
I doubt it.....

Insider Buzz: Bears Eyeing Trade Up for Mariota, Think Titans Would Take Cutler | Bleacher Report

[Defensewins]

There is currently more smoke than in Cheech's 64 Impala.

[warriorzpath]

If Mariota is there - I believe the Redskins should and will take him. Consensus from draft scouting experts is Mariota is a top 10 player on their big boards.

The only thing that prevents this is - the investment in RGIII. Here's the best thing to do to get around that - keep RGIII. And if RGIII changes and improves then great. You now have a good qb and another potentially good young one on the same roster. But if quarterback is currently a hole on the team, then the decision is easy - draft a potentially better option if the option is available.

Or you can keep hoping that RGIII turns it around - which doesn't look likely in the immediate future. RGIII doesn't appear he wants to change - he thinks it's something outside of what he's doing.

[warriorzpath]

And with the thought that this is a smokescreen - I think it's more likely it's the opposite. I think Gruden announcing RGIII in February that he was #1 going into next season - was a smokescreen for their interest in drafting Mariota.

Because if you compare them, which one really makes more sense considering the current state of the quarterback position.

[warriorzpath]

Mariota will be the backup plan to the likely event that RGIII doesn't improve again with his decision-making skills and pocket awareness. Just like Caepernick was the backup plan to Alex Smith in San Francisco and Russell Wilson was to Flynn in Seattle.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Mariota will be the backup plan to the likely event that RGIII doesn't improve again with his decision-making skills and pocket awareness. Just like Caepernick was the backup plan to Alex Smith in San Francisco and Russell Wilson was to Flynn in Seattle.

Yeah we don't have that luxury. And kap and wilson were not number 5 overall pics.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Yeah we don't have that luxury. And kap and wilson were not number 5 overall pics.

I wouldn't call trying to draft a potentially good quarterback when you are lacking at that position - a luxury. But I guess if we don't have that the only thing we have left is hope. Personally, I don't even have that any more.

[warriorzpath]

And just because it was the wrong decision to invest so many draft picks to get RGIII, you shouldn't continue to hamstring yourself and your team by not trying to fix the quarterback position, if you have a good chance to. If you don't continue to try, then you're giving up on the most important position on the team. And you're compounding your biggest problem.