2015 Draft - Quarterbacks

[JoeRedskin]

Not sure where to put this so I am putting it here. It's one of those "Wow ... other teams sometimes suck worse than us!" Unfortunately, for the last 10 years or so, they are the company we keep.

Cleveland has spent a No. 1 draft pick on QB's three times in the last 8 years.
2007 - Brady Quinn
2012 - Brandon Weeden
2014 - Johnny Manziel

The other thing that jumped out about these picks is that each one was the 22nd pick of the first round. Since 1970, the only other two QB's drafted with the 22nd pick were Rex Grossman (2003) and J.P. Losman (2004).

So ... never pick a QB at the 22nd slot and, if your Cleveland, never, ever, ever pick another QB at the 22nd slot.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Not sure where to put this so I am putting it here. It's one of those "Wow ... other teams sometimes suck worse than us!" Unfortunately, for the last 10 years or so, they are the company we keep.

Cleveland has spent a No. 1 draft pick on QB's three times in the last 8 years.
2007 - Brady Quinn
2012 - Brandon Weeden
2014 - Johnny Manziel

The other thing that jumped out about these picks is that each one was the 22nd pick of the first round. Since 1970, the only other two QB's drafted with the 22nd pick were Rex Grossman (2003) and J.P. Losman (2004).

So ... never pick a QB at the 22nd slot and, if your Cleveland, never, ever, ever pick another QB at the 22nd slot.

2010 Colt McCoy 3rd round

[30gut]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Not sure where to put this so I am putting it here.

Cleveland has spent a No. 1 draft pick on QB's three times in the last 8 years.

A high % of lottery winners still end up broke.

Its always been my opinion that having a "franchise" QB occurs in 2 stages. (Stage 1) In the early stages of a young QB's career the organization around them needs to be good enough to allow the QB to grow and sometimes even "fail" without the team becoming a dumpster fire. (Stage 2) The QB matures in a stable environment and learns the nuances of being an NFL QB then they become able to cover up for the weaknesses around the team and make them better.

A bad franchise can never get out of stage 1. They just keep swapping the QBs and heaping the blame on the QBs for the franchises failures to develop them.