Not drafting a QB a mistake?

[CRedskinsRule]

I love the offseason

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[Hog1]

Let me some up the entire thread for you:

(1) 30gut (and others) think RGIII, KC and CM suck and need to be replaced ASAP.
(2) Many people disagree.

THAT's it!
Close the thread.....

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Let me some up the entire thread for you:

(1) 30gut (and others) think RGIII, KC and CM suck and need to be replaced ASAP.
(2) Many people disagree.

THAT's it!
Close the thread.....

Lol, some posts in this thread are funny and slightly disturbing that people seems to be purposefully misrepresenting my posts and statements. Lol, the posrtion you quote above takes the cake because its almost verbatim opposite with a statement I made only a few posts ago.

I can't wait to read what I really mean/think next.

And oh btw

[CRedskinsRule]

sorry, I should let the close thread movement gain steam, but here is the definition of "mistake" from Merriam Webster:

a wrong action or statement proceeding from faulty judgment, inadequate knowledge, or inattention

So to answer the OP based on this definition:
No, I do not think it was a mistake. Yes I think that SM and others had good judgement, adequate to good knowledge, and were very focused on the task at hand.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

...a wrong action or statement proceeding from faulty judgment, inadequate knowledge, or inattention

So to answer the OP based on this definition:

No, I do not think it was a mistake. Yes I think that SM and others had good judgement, adequate to good knowledge, and were very focused on the task at hand.

Inattention.

By not drafting a QB I believe it shows an inattention to the QB position.
Others don't, shrugs.

[Hog1]

It's the offseason.....no worries
and I'm pretty sure I know where you stand on this!

[over the mountain]

Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round.

[Alvin Walton]

Not drafting Hroniss Grasu was a mistake.

[OnceWeWereKings]

30gut kinda reminds me of gary84clark....arguing and calling it dialoguing...then in a very passive aggressive way telling people they are stupid for not agreeing with him.
Harsh reminds me of gary84clark.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

30gut kinda reminds me of gary84clark....arguing and calling it dialoguing...then in a very passive aggressive way telling people they are stupid for not agreeing with him.
Harsh reminds me of gary84clark.

In his defense he's one of the best analytical thinkers when it comes to X's and O's we have on this site, and I don't think he has insinuated that anybody is stupid.

He's trying to get some meaningful discussion going which I appreciate, it's an enjoyable topic to discuss.

I think we've been talking past one another in this thread a lot - ultimately you can't judge whether this past draft was a success or failure until 3 years from now. As long as we keep that perspective this can still be a valuable discussion.

[That Guy]

i mean, tell me which QB outside the 1st round that you think is going to make it big in the league, and we'll see if you're right in a few years. I bet whoever you pick will (99%) never make a pro bowl, and probably won't end up winning 16 games (total) before retiring from the NFL. if we can't see a guy that'll be a clear upgrade over our backups in two years, then it's a bit of a wasted pick vs someone who will actually make the active roster. just my opinion.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by That Guy

i mean, tell me which QB outside the 1st round that you think is going to make it big in the league, and we'll see if you're right in a few years. I bet whoever you pick will (99%) never make a pro bowl, and probably won't end up winning 16 games (total) before retiring from the NFL. if we can't see a guy that'll be a clear upgrade over our backups in two years, then it's a bit of a wasted pick vs someone who will actually make the active roster. just my opinion.

I agree with this as well, and would go even further to say that because the team needed such an attitude adjustment when it comes to strength, nastiness, grit, and toughness I am supportive of passing on QBs in favor of players who will hit, block, or bounce back up after being hit.

We took two skill players in Jones and Crowder, but both of them help set the tone. Jones will pick up blitzes, he takes pride in pass pro, he even mentioned it in his press conference. And all you need to do is watch a Duke tape or two and it's easy to see Crowder fearlessly going over the middle a la Wes Welker.

Maybe the QBs available at that point will do well, but it doesn't matter to me because I like the cumulative message McCloughan sent to the locker room by drafting nothing but tough SOBs.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by That Guy

i mean, tell me which QB outside the 1st round that you think is going to make it big in the league, and we'll see if you're right in a few years. I bet whoever you pick will (99%) never make a pro bowl, and probably won't end up winning 16 games (total) before retiring from the NFL. if we can't see a guy that'll be a clear upgrade over our backups in two years, then it's a bit of a wasted pick vs someone who will actually make the active roster. just my opinion.

By this logic any pick that doesn't 'make it big' or 'doesn't make a pro-bowl' or 'won't start 16 games' or isn't a clear upgrade over the back-ups in 2 year is a wasted pick vs a player that merely makes the active roster?

Isn't that I don't know...kinda of a double standard?

[Schneed10]

Aside from Winston and Mariota who weren't available when we selected, I don't view any QB available in this draft as having an appreciably better chance of becoming a successful starter than any of the 3 guys we already have.

So no. I do not view this as a mistake.

Simple.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Aside from Winston and Mariota who weren't available when we selected, I don't view any QB available in this draft as having an appreciably better chance of becoming a successful starter than any of the 3 guys we already have.

So no. I do not view this as a mistake.

Its cool if you don't view passing on QB as mistake. Or should I say its cool if you dont think they should have drafted a QB somewhere. We're just talking here....

It seems to me that"appreciably better chance of becoming a successful starter ~then our guys...." is a pretty lofty measure of success for a draft pick.

Is that your criteria for making a draft selection?
Does everyone of the other draft picks meet this criteria?

My view can be summed up like this: you got to play to win. I also think we should have drafted a TE, out of curiosity what's your thought on not selecting a TE?