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Old 06-11-2015, 12:41 PM   #1
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Re: Not drafting a QB a mistake?

We could have drafted these three guys.
But, nooooooo....

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Old 06-14-2015, 11:12 AM   #2
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We could have drafted these three guys.
But, nooooooo....

We need those guys to replace the current referees.

They couldn't do any worse, than Hochuli, Booger, and the other refs we have now!
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Old 06-11-2015, 03:31 PM   #3
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I'll be glad when preseason starts so we can start hitting Posters from other teams. Where's Sandandcrap Jack??!!!
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Old 06-15-2015, 09:07 AM   #4
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Are people still discussing this nonsense? Drafting a QB this year would have been foolish when other areas of need were much more pressing. Nobody coming out at the QB position would have been any better than what we currently have at the position. We aren't in a position that our team is loaded where we can waste picks on the next Tom Brady. You want to know why Tom was as good as he was? Because he was drafted to a team that was already solid. We are not.
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:13 AM   #5
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Are people still discussing this nonsense? Drafting a QB this year would have been foolish when other areas of need were much more pressing. Nobody coming out at the QB position would have been any better than what we currently have at the position. We aren't in a position that our team is loaded where we can waste picks on the next Tom Brady. You want to know why Tom was as good as he was? Because he was drafted to a team that was already solid. We are not.
The 2000 Patriots were 5-11 with a franchise Qb, one win better than the 2014 Redskins. Doesn't seem like they were a real solid team.
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Old 06-15-2015, 06:52 PM   #6
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The 2000 Patriots were 5-11 with a franchise Qb, one win better than the 2014 Redskins. Doesn't seem like they were a real solid team.
That team was 4 years removed from a Super Bowl and two playoff appearances after that SB loss. They were 9-7 and 8-8 the years prior. That team wasn't bad like that 5-11 record indicates either. Pete Carroll wasn't a good coach at the time to say the least.
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Old 06-16-2015, 09:54 AM   #7
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Re: Not drafting a QB a mistake?

Just gonna address some points that were made in a recent post in the aim of discussion...


-We have other areas of need

Teams always have other areas of at any position both in the short term and the long term. You can make the 'other areas of need' argument for any position. And specifically in our case here its a tough argument to sell that RB or WR or LB is more of need then back-up and developmental QB since we have no QBs on signed past this season.



-Nobody coming out would have been better then what we already have

Obviously no one knows what any draft picks will become. Don't see the logic in an argument that assumes you know the outcome one way or another.
Further, its also a strawman because I haven't stated the reason to draft a QB is to compete with the QBs we currently have.



-The current team isn't 'loaded' to warrant drafting a QB

Since when does a team need to be 'loaded' to warrant drafting a developmental or other QB?



-Drafting a development QB is a 'wasted' pick

Should I name the litany of developmental QBs (especially WCO) that weren't 'wasted' picks? And the rate of success for any developmental player after the 3rd round is going to be low regardless of position. So whatever position drafted in rounds 4-7 could be viewed as 'wasted' picks.
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Now if the title was Not drafting a TE a mistake? Then I could roll with that...
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Joe....could you issue some sort of Cyber....Restraining order....or Gag..thinger?
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:25 AM   #12
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I think it's fine. There's no one who looks like a franchise QB right now but Griffin and Cousins are both solid. Build a team around them and there's potential.
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I think it's fine. There's no one who looks like a franchise QB right now but Griffin and Cousins are both solid. Build a team around them and there's potential.
Welcome to the board!

Just to clarify; I'm not saying passing a QB is big mistake more asking should they have drafted QB?

And for me, as I've said before with the situation now the right process would have been to draft a development QB somewhere in the draft.

I can understand if you dont like the QBs in this draft. But the draft is basically a crap shoot no one knows what will happen with any draft pick. Some hit and some don't. But by not drafting a position you ensure that if they hit they're not gonna be on your team.

I agree that Griff, Kirk or Colt might be solid but isn't it fair to say they also might not? Putting them aside though, even teams that have solid QBs often draft a QB to develop, especially WCOs.

For me I would feel better about the QB situation if we were developing a QB (depth, back-up or even starter) for the future.

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Welcome to the board!

Just to clarify; I'm not saying passing a QB is big mistake more asking should they have drafted QB?

And for me, as I've said before with the situation now the right process would have been to draft a development QB somewhere in the draft.

I can understand if you dont like the QBs in this draft. But the draft is basically a crap shoot no one knows what will happen with any draft pick. Some hit and some don't. But by not drafting a position you ensure that if they hit they're not gonna be on your team.

I agree that Griff, Kirk or Colt might be solid but isn't it fair to say they also might not? Putting them aside though, even teams that have solid QBs often draft a QB to develop, especially WCOs.

For me I would feel better about the QB situation if we were developing a QB (depth, back-up or even starter) for the future.

Cheers!
Who would you have picked, and which of the players we did pick would you have foregone to make that QB selection?

Without specifics this discussion is a bunch of spit in the wind.
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Old 06-17-2015, 01:57 PM   #15
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Re: Not drafting a QB a mistake?

To be clear, I have no problem with you suggesting we should have come away with a QB to develop, but it's a worthless, uninteresting, and irrelevant opinion if you can't pinpoint the part of the draft where you would have gone in a different direction to get a QB.
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