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Old 08-23-2015, 01:59 PM   #1
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

Having Trent in there makes a big difference. Willie Smith is trash.
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Old 08-23-2015, 04:26 PM   #2
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Having Trent in there makes a big difference. Willie Smith is trash.
No doubt. Trent's agent was probably the happiest dude on earth after the Lions game.

I still don't understand the rationale for starting Willie Smith in the first place. I'm sure that's a mistake the coaches Jay, Scott and Callahan regret in retrospect.

Willie Smith had 1 start last year. Compton, Morgan Moses both had more starts then him. For as much as OL coaches preach versatility I was wondering why Moses, Scherff and Compton weren't being developed as back-up at other spots along the OL. (even before the Lions game) Imo Scherff should be looked at 2nd or 3rd unit RT. Moses at 2nd unit LT. And Compton at both 2nd/3rd unit RT/LT. But that's just me I guess.
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

He is thinking way too much post snap, it's gonna get him injured big time.
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

Gotta agree with Schneed--pretty clear we don't have a QB, barring some miracle transformation where RGIII learns or KC suddenly doesn't throw picks. I personally don't think Colt has the tools to begin with, but he's got heart, no doubt.

From a GM perspective you give RGIII as much rope as you can, I think. Hell, he's got some skills--he won the Heisman. KC will get his shot--maybe he'll be able to minimize the TOs, in which case he may do well. If not, sure, colt. But in the grand scheme QB is high on the list of a big multi-year rebuild. I don't think this is a surprise to McL. He can watch film as well as anyone. It's gonna be a while--that's the facts.
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

By appearance, we have 3 guys competing for a BU roll as none seem to be able to carry the day....
So, as has been iterated, I am sure SM is looking to the next off season for.....QB
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

Seen some posts about Cooley's analysis. Here is the analysis of the analysis:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...sday-drubbing/
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

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Seen some posts about Cooley's analysis. Here is the analysis of the analysis:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...sday-drubbing/
I feel vindicated, as I said before Robert has not mastered the art of side stepping, in the pocket he has zero mobility. Defensive coordinators have caught up with athletic quarterbacks and worse than that the athleticism Robert relied on in his rookie season is long gone because of injuries. It is real simple, he either evolves and acquires skills he never needed or used before or
he is done. So far he has shown zero ability to re-invent himself.
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Old 08-24-2015, 05:16 AM   #8
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

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Seen some posts about Cooley's analysis. Here is the analysis of the analysis:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...sday-drubbing/
Cooley's breakdown have an odd defensive take, especially since Cooley's first take was the OL didn't good enough. Now his take seems like Griffin should have moved in the pocket like superman and everything would have been fine.

And that stuff about not using bootlegs vs Lions because of wide 9? Kirk and Colt ran multiple bootlegs.

Thankfully Gruden seems more aware of the pass protection and the gameplan/playcallilng issues with the 1st unit. (hint don't expect a dude Willie Smith that only started 1 game at OT last year to be an adequate fill in for Trent Williams).
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Cooley's breakdown have an odd defensive take, especially since Cooley's first take was the OL didn't good enough. Now his take seems like Griffin should have moved in the pocket like superman and everything would have been fine.

And that stuff about not using bootlegs vs Lions because of wide 9? Kirk and Colt ran multiple bootlegs.

Thankfully Gruden seems more aware of the pass protection and the gameplan/playcallilng issues with the 1st unit. (hint don't expect a dude Willie Smith that only started 1 game at OT last year to be an adequate fill in for Trent Williams).
I'm no RGIII apologist, but people are starting to get ridiculous in their criticisms of his play. There is a major point and a minor point here. The major point is that the line played very poorly in pass protection. They gave Robert no chance on some plays and little chance on some others. The minor point is that on some plays Robert could have bought a little more time if he had moved better in the pocket.

To review:

Major Point: The line sucked!

Minor Point: RGIII could have helped himself a little on some plays.
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

I know Gruden went on record before the injury saying that only injury would change their starting QB, not performance or ineffectiveness...But i wonder if that is someone who was relaying that to Gruden to say. I wonder deep down if Gruden really thinks RG3 can win or is he just hoping somehow that they find a way to win with him so he can keep his job....
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I know Gruden went on record before the injury saying that only injury would change their starting QB, not performance or ineffectiveness...But i wonder if that is someone who was relaying that to Gruden to say. I wonder deep down if Gruden really thinks RG3 can win or is he just hoping somehow that they find a way to win with him so he can keep his job....
Are you sure about that? That just doesn't sound reasonable to me.
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Old 08-24-2015, 06:45 AM   #12
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

It didnt seem like KC and CM had as much O Line issues as RG but they seem to get the ball out faster. It seems to me that RG is lost in the pocket. He has no pocket presence and he seems to struggle with where he should go with the ball. Hopefully this will improve but I'm not betting on it.
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

It does seem like that to me as well. It also seems to me that the Offense as a whole plays better....the moment Robert leaves the game.
Robert must.....scutch over a little here, scutch over a little there in the pocket area when some room is available to buy time and.....Try to minimize some of the hits he takes. He stands there like a tree and gets...spanked! SHIT Robert
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Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

it was the same ol that was blocking for McCoy and cousins..i will give it against some backups..that is why i would love to see Cousins against starters..and RGlll against backups..would that not be more of a real test of where they are at at qb??
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it was the same ol that was blocking for McCoy and cousins..i will give it against some backups..that is why i would love to see Cousins against starters..and RGlll against backups..would that not be more of a real test of where they are at at qb??
You and I both know that ain't gonna happen. RGIII has been annointed from above to be the starter and apparently fair competition is not to be allowed.
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