Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Holy crap where has that guy gone?? On those dropbacks he looks so comfortable,he's sliding away from pressure,he just looks like a totally different qb then he does now.His mechanics and instincts now look like shit compared to then

WOW.....that dude deserves 16m a year.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Hog1

WOW.....that dude deserves 16m a year.

Deserve doesn't have much to do with it if he breaks.

[kingj]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Holy crap where has that guy gone?? On those dropbacks he looks so comfortable,he's sliding away from pressure,he just looks like a totally different qb then he does now.His mechanics and instincts now look like shit compared to then

Shanahan had his issues including his ego for player personnel especially on defense side of ball. The guy had no clue about building a defense despite wanting the power.

Having said that, he deserves credit for knowing what it would take to have RG3 succeed; the R/O.

He's right to blast both Gruden and Griffin. If either of these two want to salvage their nfl careers, they should welcome the R/O with open arms. Refusing to play to the strengths of the player will cost Gruden his job and most likely make RG3 another Vince young

[30gut]

^^^^Do you realize that video is from 2013?

SMH even when shown video of Griffin actually running R/O the perception that he won't/refuses/doesn't want to....persists.

Why people choose to believe Mike S revisionist history is beyond me.

[NC_Skins]

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by 30gut

^^^^Do you realize that video is from 2013?

SMH even when shown video of Griffin actually running R/O the perception that he won't/refuses/doesn't want to....persists.

Why people choose to believe Mike S revisionist history is beyond me.

Good point on that being from 2013 but doesnt change the fact that he's still not that good,looks like he's regressed from 2013.
I dont think its revisionist history on Mike S.In that training camp and all off season the talk was on Griff becoming more of a pocket passer,yes he still ran the read option that yr but not near as much.I dont think anyones ever said they didnt run it anymore,if they did they dont know what theyre talking about.

[Hog1]

Shanahan is about himself and nothing more. Anything he says about the Skins will be slanted to cast him in the best light or.......an outright lie.
Whichever makes him look better.

[Evilgrin]

Gruden isn't running a different offense depending on the player, he isn't necessarily running an offense that fits RG3 though.

RG3 threw up all over himself on few plays Thursday. He either isn't making good presnap reads, or one move by the defense is causing chaos in his brain. He knows the line play isn't good, and he still isn't getting rid of the ball. He also isn't sliding laterally at all, there is alot to look at and just not like.

As for Shanahan, he didn't improve our personnel. I mean they are rebuilding from his rebuilding.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Shanahan is about himself and nothing more. Anything he says about the Skins will be slanted to cast him in the best light or.......an outright lie.
Whichever makes him look better.

Not really. He didn't say anything bad in the interview, and mind you, they asked him about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...t-rgiii-again/

“To be honest with you, you don’t get to study him on a day-to-day basis,” Shanahan said. “I don’t look at his film every day. But I can give you an opinion after my first year when I was there: you get a guy like Robert who’s been with an offense, very comfortable with what he did in college. He never had a playbook. Never had two-level throws or three-level throws. So you could see very quickly that was going to take some time.

“But you had a guy that had some great athletic skills, a guy that was very smart, a guy that was into the game,” Shanahan said. “And what you try to do is utilize those talents and go with it. You know, some guys, at the end of the season — like Robert did — he felt like he was a little bit more of a drop-back passer than a few of us thought. And now he’s going to have a chance to go out and prove himself.”

He's accurate. It's why I would never draft a spread offense QB highly and expect anything soon.

[irish]

From what I understand about the preseason, teams don't necessarily run an offense or do anything that could give opponents the opportunity to get any trends on what might be done. Teams run base plays and the coaches look for execution. Success is determined on how well players execute.

[SirLK26]

Kurt Warner: Redskins' offensive struggles weren't about Griffin

"There were some things that I saw on tape where you could easily say if Robert maybe went to the other side on a couple of those reads, he could have got the ball out a little bit quicker,” Warner told old friend Dan Hellie on NFL Network. “But I think we have to be honest when we look at the tape, and say this wasn’t RGIII’s fault, for the most part. He wasn’t back there holding onto the ball, hitching, looking both directions. He was back there, he was dropping, he was trying to get the ball out of his hands, and his offensive line really, really struggled [Thursday] night."

[That Guy]

kurt warner also got hit like 4 million times while playing, so i'm not sure he's the best guy to ask about that.

[redskinsfan1980]

Originally Posted by That Guy

kurt warner also got hit like 4 million times while playing, so i'm not sure he's the best guy to ask about that.

If Kurt Warner isn't credible then who is? He has more knowledge about football and the quarterback position than all the posters here combine. I'm not saying that Robert doesn't deserve some criticism for the way our offense performed. But that line didn't give him much of a chance.

[Flyer97]

Unfortunately, anyway you look at it the poor guy is doomed. First of all most of us I think can agree that Robert was indeed a systems QB out of Baylor. Systems QBs in Div IA are not really being prepped for the pros. Leinart from USC is the best example by far. Second of all, this kid was really overhyped. Yes he was an extremely good athlete, but the hype he received was out of this world. I thought the Carr, Harrington, then Leinart and Young hype jobs were over the top, but they don't hold a candle to what the media did to hype up RGIII. This kid didn't stand a chance of living up to it. Even his ROY season couldn't totally match the hype. This not coming close to living up to that hype is the source of the "hating". On top of the hype, and the fact he wasn't really groomed for the NFL, he got drafted by a mess of an organization, that didn't know anything about building a real contender. As we saw this past Thursday night, our line without Trent sucks, and let's be honest Trent gets banged up often. Even with Trent in there, it is an average line at best. In fact, Trent is the only true starter we have on our O line. The rest are nothing more than second stringers thrown out there due to FO incompetence of the last decade. This fact alone almost guarantees that Robert will only survive through week 5 only by the grace of the Almighty. If Suh and co come in real hungry he might not last past week 1. Couple the fact that the o line is horribly outclassed and the fact that RGIII really hasn't shown enough improvement thus far in the preseason, I don't think he is going to be upright past week 5. IF I was Scotty M, I also wouldn't draft a QB in 2016, but do some great scouting for more offensive linemen in the first two rounds. Any new rook we get is still going to get killed with the boobs we have on our line. Shore up the offensive line before we go for another young gun. We don't need to ruin more young QBs like Patrick and now Robert because of wrong schemes/bad offensive lines.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Flyer97

Unfortunately, anyway you look at it the poor guy is doomed. First of all most of us I think can agree that Robert was indeed a systems QB out of Baylor. Systems QBs in Div IA are not really being prepped for the pros. Leinart from USC is the best example by far. Second of all, this kid was really overhyped. Yes he was an extremely good athlete, but the hype he received was out of this world. I thought the Carr, Harrington, then Leinart and Young hype jobs were over the top, but they don't hold a candle to what the media did to hype up RGIII. This kid didn't stand a chance of living up to it. Even his ROY season couldn't totally match the hype. This not coming close to living up to that hype is the source of the "hating". On top of the hype, and the fact he wasn't really groomed for the NFL, he got drafted by a mess of an organization, that didn't know anything about building a real contender. As we saw this past Thursday night, our line without Trent sucks, and let's be honest Trent gets banged up often. Even with Trent in there, it is an average line at best. In fact, Trent is the only true starter we have on our O line. The rest are nothing more than second stringers thrown out there due to FO incompetence of the last decade. This fact alone almost guarantees that Robert will only survive through week 5 only by the grace of the Almighty. If Suh and co come in real hungry he might not last past week 1. Couple the fact that the o line is horribly outclassed and the fact that RGIII really hasn't shown enough improvement thus far in the preseason, I don't think he is going to be upright past week 5. IF I was Scotty M, I also wouldn't draft a QB in 2016, but do some great scouting for more offensive linemen in the first two rounds. Any new rook we get is still going to get killed with the boobs we have on our line. Shore up the offensive line before we go for another young gun. We don't need to ruin more young QBs like Patrick and now Robert because of wrong schemes/bad offensive lines.

The offensive line is a lot better than what you are giving credit for. Kirk had 8 sacks in 6 games last year as opposed to 33 in 7 games by Robert. The OL is fine. Is it the best? Absolutely not, but it's enough to make a 6th round RB look like a star the past 3 years. Also, our line is rated better than the Patriots as well.