Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

[Flyer97]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

The offensive line is a lot better than what you are giving credit for. Kirk had 8 sacks in 6 games last year as opposed to 33 in 7 games by Robert. The OL is fine. Is it the best? Absolutely not, but it's enough to make a 6th round RB look like a star the past 3 years. Also, our line is rated better than the Patriots as well.

Didn't look so hot at home on Thursday night. Why was it so utterly dominated? The Lions D is good, but they totally made our line look inept and unprepared. Are the conspiracy folks right in that they were bad intentionally to send Robert a message? I know Robert has some blame for him being treated like a rag doll, but the line did suck bad! Even if the line does shore up some come week 1 against the Dolphins I am not sure Robert is going to stay healthy for long.

[redskinsfan1980]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

The offensive line is a lot better than what you are giving credit for. Kirk had 8 sacks in 6 games last year as opposed to 33 in 7 games by Robert. The OL is fine. Is it the best? Absolutely not, but it's enough to make a 6th round RB look like a star the past 3 years. Also, our line is rated better than the Patriots as well.

I heard Kevin Sheehan use the ridiculous argument. RG3 took a lot of sacks and many them were his fault. That is true. However, RG3 faults doesn't change the FACT that our Oline got manhandled consistently. They couldn't open holes in the running game that is one of the reason AM barely eclipsed 1000 (a career low). Lets be honest, with out that read option he would never had 1600 and 1300 yard seasons. With RG3 on the field he has room to run. Without him he struggles to get 50 yards in a game behind our line. That's not my opinion, it's a fact. If you watched all of the games last year you'll see no matter who we play our Olinemen gets pushed in the backfield consistently on passing and running plays. Now Kirk might have taken less sacks but our offense was just as ineffective.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

The offensive line is a lot better than what you are giving credit for. Kirk had 8 sacks in 6 games last year as opposed to 33 in 7 games by Robert. The OL is fine. Is it the best? Absolutely not, but it's enough to make a 6th round RB look like a star the past 3 years. Also, our line is rated better than the Patriots as well.

Luck's line sucks worse, Rogers and Big Ben have played with crappy Lines. It's a tired and pathetic excuse. RG3 gets sacked, because he can't recognize Defenses and has zero pocket presence. KC and Colt are hardly pro-bowlers and they get sacked way less behind the same Offensive Linemen.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by That Guy

kurt warner also got hit like 4 million times while playing, so i'm not sure he's the best guy to ask about that.

And he has no idea what they're running and who's responsible for what.

[rocnrik]

What do you guys think about Zach Mettenberger? possible somebody we could trade for??

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

What do you guys think about Zach Mettenberger? possible somebody we could trade for??

Hes no better than what we have in our backup barn.
I'm willing to wait for cuts and or next years draft to refill the QB position.
Lets not burn anymore draft picks for this year.

[Flyer97]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

What do you guys think about Zach Mettenberger? possible somebody we could trade for??

Personally, like I have stated before, I don't think we should even entertain acquiring a top QB before we rebuild the line. After Trent goes, we have a bunch of scrubs to deal with. I would rebuild the line next season then draft a QB in 2017. We need new scouting dept folks.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Flyer97

Personally, like I have stated before, I don't think we should even entertain acquiring a top QB before we rebuild the line. After Trent goes, we have a bunch of scrubs to deal with. I would rebuild the line next season then draft a QB in 2017. We need new scouting dept folks.

Hopefully they can draft a QB who doesn't call the wrong protections all the time and has some semblance of pre-snap recognition. Otherwise, it doesn't matter who's blocking.

[kingj]

Griffin is a R/O QB. I don't care if Gruden refuses to play that system or if RGIII refuses to play it. Get rid of them both if this is case.

Gruden has been a subpar coach and while shanahan's downfall is his ego over player personnel (especially when he doesn't know anything about defensive personnel) at least he recognized the only way to succeed with RG was running R/O

[redskinsfan1980]

If we want RG3 to be successful this year then we have to start running more of the read option. I do believe he's gotten better as a pocket passer, but he's at his best when we're running the read option. I say let the man go out there and do what he does best and slowly but surely develop his abilities from the pocket. I'm seeing other teams running the read option. Why are we not running it? What do you guys think?

[Flyer97]

Originally Posted by redskinsfan1980

If we want RG3 to be successful this year then we have to start running more of the read option. I do believe he's gotten better as a pocket passer, but he's at his best when we're running the read option. I say let the man go out there and do what he does best and slowly but surely develop his abilities from the pocket. What do you guys think?

Read option is going to get him killed eventually. This is why I think Gruden is just going to play him, hope for the best and let the chips fall where they will.

[redskinsfan1980]

Originally Posted by Flyer97

Read option is going to get him killed eventually. This is why I think Gruden is just going to play him, hope for the best and let the chips fall where they will.

I keep hearing people say that, but in reality the opposite is true. The biggest hits he's taken has been in the pocket. If anything it looks like he's going to get killed in pocket. And if what you think is true why not make the best of the situation and get the most out of him? In my opinion it's no reason to stop doing what works.

[Flyer97]

Originally Posted by redskinsfan1980

I keep hearing people say that, but in reality the opposite is true. The biggest hits he's taken has been in the pocket. If anything it looks like he's going to get killed in pocket. And if what you think is true why not make the best of the situation and get the most out of him? In my opinion it's no reason to stop doing what works.

I agree with you to a certain extent. Read Option is best for him, but he isn't as mobile as in pre injury 2012. He just isn't the same guy, hence that is why I think he eventually would get smacked down really bad eventually. I just don't see how this whole drama is going to have a happy ending. You have a QB that is trying to become something he is not, and you have a veiled civil war going on between the HC and management. Yeah Gruden is playing nice for now, but who knows what it is going to be like if Robert either gets hurt or just doesn't get the job done. All we have to do is pray for a miracle that Robert gets it together before he sustains another major injury. Gruden's as well as the Skin's future is now dependent on RG III for better or for worse. If Gruden gets fired after this season, the chances of ever getting a decent HC in the near to mid term will be nil, if it isn't already considering we basically got stuck with Gruden IMHO.

[rocnrik]

seeing we are talking about the OL ..to make matters worse we use our top pick on a Guard..(he can't beat out Morgan for the Tackle spot..and Moses was what a 3rd round pick..) Scherff will have to be a pro bowl player for years to justify the number 5 spot to play Guard.I am glad we drafted a OL but we could have gotten that level of player in the middle of the first round with an added top player say another OL OR TE..

[DYoungJelly]

Cooley's more thorough film breakdown of the Detroit game: (It's labeled as such on Aug 24)

Audio Vault | ESPN 980

Cooley says he knows the offense and knows what he is talking about. I know, I know, most analysts say the same thing. It's one thing to read a break down by a writer at the Washington Post or a part time soccer analyst on bleacher report. It's another to listen to someone break down the mistakes who played in the same offense he is analyzing.

FYI, he does fault Scherff for poor play. The jist of the break down is that Grif didn't do anything that even a mediocre QB should do to mask the errors of the line.

He makes a big deal out of the one instance that Scherff and Smith were beaten each and they were able to keep the defender in front of them. This, he argues gives RG3 an opportunity to side step and hit a check down or throw it in the dirt at somebody.