Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015

[kingj]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Kelly would end up getting Griffin killed.

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Very possible but at this stage that's griffin's only chance in this league. He needs to embrace the R/O because whether he gets killed or not he's not surviving the league as a pocket passer. Just don't see it, personally.

[Bucket]

I also don't think RG3 is regressing as much as people say. It was a handful of plays against the Lions in a handful of 3rd and longs. He's shown progression working on his pocket work in TC ( I was there) and in the first game.

People need to realize he's basically a 25yr old rookie when it comes to pocket work. I wish we would run a similar system that Wisenhunt runs to help him a bit more but Jay seems to have a plan for RG3 and that is getting him as much work from the pocket as possible while the games don't count.

Don't be surprised to see a lot DIFFERENT offense in week 1. Not to many boots though since I am aware that Miami runs the wide 9.

[calia]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I also don't think RG3 is regressing as much as people say. It was a handful of plays against the Lions in a handful of 3rd and longs. He's shown progression working on his pocket work in TC ( I was there) and in the first game.



People need to realize he's basically a 25yr old rookie when it comes to pocket work. I wish we would run a similar system that Wisenhunt runs to help him a bit more but Jay seems to have a plan for RG3 and that is getting him as much work from the pocket as possible while the games don't count.



Don't be surprised to see a lot DIFFERENT offense in week 1. Not to many boots though since I am aware that Miami runs the wide 9.

Thanks for posting - nice to hear something positive in this thread.


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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by calia

Thanks for posting - nice to hear something positive in this thread.


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What do you expect in a thread about RG-3? To a man I think everyone here wants to post great things about him for obvious reasons - we are all Redskins fans. Unfortunately we can only talk about what we see and it has been ugly. If I thought that posting positive vibes for Griff would help him be a better qb id be rah rah rah-ing all over the place! Lol

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by punch it in

What do you expect in a thread about RG-3? To a man I think everyone here wants to post great things about him for obvious reasons - we are all Redskins fans. Unfortunately we can only talk about what we see and it has been ugly. If I thought that posting positive vibes for Griff would help him be a better qb id be rah rah rah-ing all over the place! Lol

Well Said!

[Flyer97]

Originally Posted by punch it in

What do you expect in a thread about RG-3? To a man I think everyone here wants to post great things about him for obvious reasons - we are all Redskins fans. Unfortunately we can only talk about what we see and it has been ugly. If I thought that posting positive vibes for Griff would help him be a better qb id be rah rah rah-ing all over the place! Lol

Even if he does improve and becomes a decent pocket passer, the guy is bound to get killed at one point or another with our schedule, especially the first 5-6 games against Miami and our divisional rivals. The loss of two starters doesn't help either.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I also don't think RG3 is regressing as much as people say. It was a handful of plays against the Lions in a handful of 3rd and longs. He's shown progression working on his pocket work in TC ( I was there) and in the first game.

People need to realize he's basically a 25yr old rookie when it comes to pocket work. I wish we would run a similar system that Wisenhunt runs to help him a bit more but Jay seems to have a plan for RG3 and that is getting him as much work from the pocket as possible while the games don't count.

Don't be surprised to see a lot DIFFERENT offense in week 1. Not to many boots though since I am aware that Miami runs the wide 9.

If you can't see a 6'5" 300 pound opponent coming straight for you in time to side step to make him miss (Like old slow Peyton Manning or Tom Brady)
or minimize the hit you never will.

Actually "pocket presence" and what I would call "football instincts" are mostly in your DNA you either have them or don't, you don't improve them
much with practice. Think of someone who you would consider a lifetime bad driver, someone who hits pot holes, road junk and critters with regularity, even though they have been driving for decades. Under the same road conditions you spot a ground hog running across the road 1/4 mile ahead.

Hate to use myself as an example in the late 70's early 80's I struggled to start at linebacker at a D3 college. I had measurables that a lot of high NFL picks don't have today. I had a 3.88 GPA in High School and 3.75 GPA in college. Yet my football I.Q. was too low to even register and I played all the way back to 5th grade flag football. I paid attention at practice and teammates tried to tutor me after practice. No one bit on fakes or tackled the guy without the ball more than me. I was missing something I could not acquire.

I am afraid RG3 is missing some natural instincts needed to succeed as an NFL
QB. He is like the bad driver that is always running over or into things.

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

If you can't see a 6'5" 300 pound opponent coming straight for you in time to side step to make him miss (Like old slow Peyton Manning or Tom Brady)
or minimize the hit you never will.

Actually "pocket presence" and what I would call "football instincts" are mostly in your DNA you either have them or don't, you don't improve them
much with practice...

I am afraid RG3 is missing some natural instincts needed to succeed as an NFL
QB...

Exactly!

[irish]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

If you can't see a 6'5" 300 pound opponent coming straight for you in time to side step to make him miss (Like old slow Peyton Manning or Tom Brady)
or minimize the hit you never will.

Actually "pocket presence" and what I would call "football instincts" are mostly in your DNA you either have them or don't, you don't improve them
much with practice. Think of someone who you would consider a lifetime bad driver, someone who hits pot holes, road junk and critters with regularity, even though they have been driving for decades. Under the same road conditions you spot a ground hog running across the road 1/4 mile ahead.

Hate to use myself as an example in the late 70's early 80's I struggled to start at linebacker at a D3 college. I had measurables that a lot of high NFL picks don't have today. I had a 3.88 GPA in High School and 3.75 GPA in college. Yet my football I.Q. was too low to even register and I played all the way back to 5th grade flag football. I paid attention at practice and teammates tried to tutor me after practice. No one bit on fakes or tackled the guy without the ball more than me. I was missing something I could not acquire.

I am afraid RG3 is missing some natural instincts needed to succeed as an NFL
QB. He is like the bad driver that is always running over or into things.

I think RG3 has football instincts but they are not the kind of instincts that make for an elite NFL QB. In college he could work without a playbook and rely on instinct to run and throw and play at a high level. That doesnt work in the pros where a QB cant just improvise and rely on his superior talent since everyone has superior talent. The bottom line is, RG3's skill set is not a good fit for an NFL QB.

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by irish

I think RG3 has football instincts but they are not the kind of instincts that make for an elite NFL QB. In college he could work without a playbook and rely on instinct to run and throw and play at a high level. That doesnt work in the pros where a QB cant just improvise and rely on his superior talent since everyone has superior talent. The bottom line is, RG3's skill set is not a good fit for an NFL QB.

Well, maybe RG3 can be successful in the CFL, since it is a more wide open game.

[irish]

Originally Posted by kct1975

Well, maybe RG3 can be successful in the CFL, since it is a more wide open game.

I dont know, its 3 down football so passing is even more important in the CFL than it is in the NFL.

[Evilgrin]

The radio is hilarious, I'm going with Doc, he says it will sort itself out quick when the games are real.

[Flyer97]

I was a homer all the way til the Zorn debacle. After that, I just became a total cynic, then after the McNabb and Shanny/RG III garbage I got to the point that I was seriously considering just dropping the team. It is very hard to see the positive side of things when you get a continuous stream of BS thrown your way. I hope Scotty M and the end of this RG III drama will exorcise the demons that Snyder's lunacy has begotten us!!!!

[KI Skins Fan]

If you think it's negative around here now, wait until you see what it's like after the Ravens game. In view of the way the Ravens were handled by the Eagles, they are no doubt ready to rip somebody a new one - and Robert is the poor soul in their sights.

[Bangee7]

like most, I have grown tired of the RG3 saga....all day, every day!

If the kid can start to play solidly & start showing the maturity as a QB that he should exhibit by now, then I'm 100% behind him.

I was all for giving him the first 4-5 games this year, but if "RG3-and-Out" keeps showing up, then I am ready to see if KC has matured enough against the starters.

I hope to see the answer in the Baltimore game this weekend...one way or the other.

Hail!